The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

[lilly]

The new Nissan Leaf is designed to compete with the Tesla Model 3. It has Propilot to compete with Tesla's Autopilot. It also has a 226 mile range. Plus, it has features that the Tesla Model 3 doesn't have such as better fit & finish, ePedal driving, a buttery smooth ride and many more positive features unique to the Nissan Leaf. The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

The following is my video comparison review of the Tesla Model 3 vs the Tesla Model 3. I own both vehicles.
https://youtu.be/vjO3sSIksFc

[lorenfb]

The new Nissan Leaf is designed to compete with the Tesla Model 3. It has Propilot to compete with Tesla's Autopilot. It also has a 226 mile range. Plus, it has features that the Tesla Model 3 doesn't have such as better fit & finish, ePedal driving, a buttery smooth ride and many more positive features unique to the Nissan Leaf.

Seductive wording used to present the actual sales pitch!

[TomT]

Drove the top-of-the-line Leaf and a Model 3 LR multiple times... The decision was easy for me. My tagline tells it all. One big decider for me was no TMS in the Leaf, but my decision would have been the same regardless!

By the way, Tesla's range estimates using max regen seem to be very conservative... I've be averaging 350 miles of range.

[DanCar]

Thanks! Excellent video.

[OrientExpress]

Very nice long form review, my editorial notes is to recommend you create a short form video of about 5 to 8 minutes that is more balanced between the two vehicles. I timed 3 minutes on the LEAF, and the rest of the 20 minutes on the Tesla which is clear that you are leading the viewer instead of presenting an unbiased review.

[DougWantsALeaf]

Agree

Video is good, but it’s very Tesla focused va a back and forth between the cars.

Costs I still feel like favor the leaf. An SV plus with tech for 37k - 7,500 (so about 30k + tax). Vs a base standard range plus 3 for 40k - 3,750 is still about a 7k difference in price. More so if you add autopilot or any color choice.

Rear storage still better in the leaf. 3 kids preferred the leaf seating (we are mean parents) to the Tesla.

Tesla is cool no doubt. Not bashing anything.

[webeleafowners]

We are on the fence between the Leaf SL Eplus and the model 3. If we go model 3 it will be LR RWD so no sense comparing price. But without a Chademo or CCS adapter the model 3 is outa there. There are 10 times as many CCS/Chademo locations in our province. Without an adapter we would be restricted to level 2 charging at least half the places we travel. We are not in a hurry. Hoping they come out with an adapter in the next 6 to 9 months. Otherwise it’s the leaf.

[LeftieBiker]

There is no way to decide which of two cars is "better" compared to the other when they are different kinds of cars, targeted to two different markets. Despite the overlap in functions (which often results in families driving one of each, it seems) the two cars have two very different "personalities." The Leaf is affordable and comfortable, while the Model 3 has great performance and range. The Leaf offers a softer ride and more creature comforts, while the Model 3 is more like what sports cars of the mid twentieth century used to be: fun to drive and spartan on the inside.

What you CAN do is determine - or at least opine - how well each of the cars fulfills its "mission." The Leaf "Too" succeeds in being comfortable and affordable, but the battery longevity has yet to be determined. The Model 3 succeeds at being fast and fun while being more affordable than any previous Tesla, but the long term reliability of the car has yet to be established. I have no interest, at my age and state of physical health, in driving a Model 3 (except as a test drive, for fun). Others have no interest in driving the Buick-like Leaf. As one of the relatively few people here who isn't a fan of either Tesla OR Nissan, I'd like to see more comparisons, and fewer arguments...

[lilly]

The Tesla Model 3 IS getting a CCS plug for the European market. Where are you at? You said "province" so I assume you're in Canada? You may want to call Tesla and ask if you're going to get a CCS plug in Canada. Following is the article.
https://electrek.co/2018/11/14/tesla-mo ... s-model-x/

LeftyBiker & DougWantsALeaf, Yeah, I'm keeping my Leaf. The Tesla Model Y is not out yet and a hatchback is more practical for hunting and fishing. I wish there were an electric pickup truck, though. I like both cars and I'm not selling either one. Oh, and I forgot to mention in my review that the Tesla has some minor fit and finish issues; the charge port won't close, the paint was scratched, and the side underbody trim was falling off. However, they did fix these items within 2 weeks with no fuss. Be careful to examine your vehicle thoroughly on delivery day because if you did not spot the defect and document it with the delivery agent on your account, they may not fix it, depending on the issue. Not all issues are covered under warranty. For example, the tires are not covered under Tesla's warranty. That would be classified as "wear and tear" even though the delivery process inflicted the damage, you'd have to document it to be classified as such.

We are on the fence between the Leaf SL Eplus and the model 3. If we go model 3 it will be LR RWD so no sense comparing price. But without a Chademo or CCS adapter the model 3 is outa there. There are 10 times as many CCS/Chademo locations in our province. Without an adapter we would be restricted to level 2 charging at least half the places we travel. We are not in a hurry. Hoping they come out with an adapter in the next 6 to 9 months. Otherwise it’s the leaf.

[SageBrush]

I watch the battery capacity of our LEAF drop by the month. End of comparison