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Re: Upgrade your Nissan LEAF Battery to a 40kWh or 62kWh Salvaged pack

Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:15 pm

I remain committed to help support the forum by remaining a gold member, but it expires for a few days every year even though I have automatic renewal. I have not checked old posts to see if photos are still there because I rarely attach photos.
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Re: Upgrade your Nissan LEAF Battery to a 40kWh or 62kWh Salvaged pack

Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:06 pm

GerryAZ wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:15 pm
I remain committed to help support the forum by remaining a gold member, but it expires for a few days every year even though I have automatic renewal. I have not checked old posts to see if photos are still there because I rarely attach photos.
One of the Admins fixed the issue. It turned out it was some cache problem with the server. So now it’s fixed. I’ve been a Gold member for 7 years.

But, I may have to request a refund. Jlv is really making my time here uncomfortable and I don’t need that angst in my life. If he doesn’t relent I’ll have to leave for good and ask that all my post be deleted.

I’ll keep my LEAF stuff elsewhere.
For a list of aftermarket Nissan LEAF battery installers click the URL below: (If you are or know another that is not on my list please let me know so I can add them. Thanks!)

http://NissanLEAFbatteryReplacement.com

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Re: Upgrade your Nissan LEAF Battery to a 40kWh or 62kWh Salvaged pack

Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:27 am

....... YouTube Video was deleted and so i removed it from this post
Last edited by UBUYGAS on Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
For a list of aftermarket Nissan LEAF battery installers click the URL below: (If you are or know another that is not on my list please let me know so I can add them. Thanks!)

http://NissanLEAFbatteryReplacement.com

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Re: Upgrade your Nissan LEAF Battery to a 40kWh or 62kWh Salvaged pack

Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:30 pm

UBUYGAS wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:27 am
Here’s a 2011 that’s been upgraded to a homemade 64kWh pack by Jesus Toucedo in Spain.

https://youtu.be/4UUvuG-zdiQ
that pack looks like it would immediately explode in an accident.

- there will be huge shear forces on the vertical bolts and stacked cells during braking and turning
- cell clamping force is insanely uneven. >1cm increase in stack height from bolts at edge to center. 100% chance that at least one of these cells shorts out or puffs in the next two years.
- no gaps or anything between cells to account for cell expansion, debris, trapped air...
- what happens when one of these cells catches fire? they included no fire retardants and did not add vents or anything.
- horizontal support bar has been removed. the case will likely warp across the center and might fail. could they not afford a single hour of a mechanical engineer's time?
- FDM busbar holders? are they serious? at least it's better than plywood
- drill press through cell terminals: don't even need to say why this process is awful besides being nonscalable
- working on a live pack without any PPE
- metal tools left sitting on top of bare pouch cells during assembly. what other foreign object debris will be in this pack? :shock:
- no cooling whatsoever, no clear picture what chemistry is being used here. how is one of the cells in that rear stack supposed to cool off when it has 25 cells on all other sides?

i hope this buyer has fire insurance and sure hope they paid less than $5k.

edit: whoops, they're charging $14,000 euros. :|

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Re: Upgrade your Nissan LEAF Battery to a 40kWh or 62kWh Salvaged pack

Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:31 am

coleafrado wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:30 pm
UBUYGAS wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:27 am
Here’s a 2011 that’s been upgraded to a homemade 64kWh pack by Jesus Toucedo in Spain.

https://youtu.be/4UUvuG-zdiQ
that pack looks like it would immediately explode in an accident.

- there will be huge shear forces on the vertical bolts and stacked cells during braking and turning
- cell clamping force is insanely uneven. >1cm increase in stack height from bolts at edge to center. 100% chance that at least one of these cells shorts out or puffs in the next two years.
- no gaps or anything between cells to account for cell expansion, debris, trapped air...
- what happens when one of these cells catches fire? they included no fire retardants and did not add vents or anything.
- horizontal support bar has been removed. the case will likely warp across the center and might fail. could they not afford a single hour of a mechanical engineer's time?
- FDM busbar holders? are they serious? at least it's better than plywood
- drill press through cell terminals: don't even need to say why this process is awful besides being nonscalable
- working on a live pack without any PPE
- metal tools left sitting on top of bare pouch cells during assembly. what other foreign object debris will be in this pack? :shock:
- no cooling whatsoever, no clear picture what chemistry is being used here. how is one of the cells in that rear stack supposed to cool off when it has 25 cells on all other sides?

i hope this buyer has fire insurance and sure hope they paid less than $5k.

edit: whoops, they're charging $14,000 euros. :|
I don’t have any answers for you. I’ve sent your comments to the installer and gave him the URL to this thread.

It’s up to him if he feels like responding.
For a list of aftermarket Nissan LEAF battery installers click the URL below: (If you are or know another that is not on my list please let me know so I can add them. Thanks!)

http://NissanLEAFbatteryReplacement.com

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Re: Upgrade your Nissan LEAF Battery to a 40kWh or 62kWh Salvaged pack

Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:46 am

Are you ready to board the Fenix flight?



[Mod: fixed to direct link]
https://fenix.systems/product/leaf-cpo- ... eservation
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For a list of aftermarket Nissan LEAF battery installers click the URL below: (If you are or know another that is not on my list please let me know so I can add them. Thanks!)

http://NissanLEAFbatteryReplacement.com

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Re: Upgrade your Nissan LEAF Battery to a 40kWh or 62kWh Salvaged pack

Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:42 am

Added another company to my NEW LEAF BATTERY list of installers:

If you have a LEAF, need a NEW battery and live near them, then give them a call.

My complete list can be found at: http://NewLEAFbattery.com

Precision Auto Service Ltd.

Electric Vehicle EV Service and Repair
Langley Surrey Abbotsford
phone: 604-530-9394
URL: www.precisionautoservice.com
Ask for Scott Waddie
22575 Fraser Hwy # 101
Langley, British Columbia V2Z2T5
For a list of aftermarket Nissan LEAF battery installers click the URL below: (If you are or know another that is not on my list please let me know so I can add them. Thanks!)

http://NissanLEAFbatteryReplacement.com

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Re: Upgrade your Nissan LEAF Battery to a 40kWh or 62kWh Salvaged pack

Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:26 pm

This is from an email I received last night:

#FenixPowerCo is ready to install your batteries.

New Fenix partners help launch subscriptions!

https://systems.us14.list-manage.com/tr ... 286facc622


And this is my understanding on the costs:

This is for CPO packs. Not the Thermally managed Fenix packs they've been talking about for 18 months.

Fenix costs

There are 3 costs:

Installation:

Battery Cost:

Warranty:

Installation has always been from day 1 $1500 and they had a discount on that if you pre-ordered. I told people over and over to pre-order early to get the lowest installation price. They claim they have 700 pre-orders. Most of those people paid between $103 to $150 towards their install cost. (The people with the $103 used my discount codes) Depending when you paid, the earliest people got the best deal.

I paid $150 in 2018 and that's all I will pay for installation. Some people waited till the install cost was $300, or $600 or $750. And unfortunately some people did not listen to me and pre-order and those people will pay $1500 to install.
The people who pre-ordered when the install deal was $300 will owe $150 on the day they get their
battery installed.

The people who pre-ordered when the cost was $750 still owe $600 for installation.

And the people who did not pre-order will pay $1500 for installation.

BATTERY COST:
$2499 in Cash or $150 a month for 24 months.

WARRANTY:
$14.99 a month if you want it.
For a list of aftermarket Nissan LEAF battery installers click the URL below: (If you are or know another that is not on my list please let me know so I can add them. Thanks!)

http://NissanLEAFbatteryReplacement.com

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Re: Upgrade your Nissan LEAF Battery to a 40kWh or 62kWh Salvaged pack

Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:03 pm

Wish I could post a screenshot

This guy

https://m.facebook.com/groups/408818523 ... composer=0

Claims he upgraded to a 60kwHr salvage Pack so he has his 2014 battery for sale

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Re: Upgrade your Nissan LEAF Battery to a 40kWh or 62kWh Salvaged pack

Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:14 pm

rmay635703 wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:03 pm
Wish I could post a screenshot

This guy

https://m.facebook.com/groups/408818523 ... composer=0

Claims he upgraded to a 60kwHr salvage Pack so he has his 2014 battery for sale
Nice! did you buy it?
For a list of aftermarket Nissan LEAF battery installers click the URL below: (If you are or know another that is not on my list please let me know so I can add them. Thanks!)

http://NissanLEAFbatteryReplacement.com

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