CHAdeMO dead?

[DougWantsALeaf]

I had a call with Brett Graessle from Wallbox today (Quasar). He said they have delayed their US launch to 2022. They are focusing on the UK rollout with the programs there. He said they have been working with CCS but that he thought cars with support were still some ways away. They are also working to add an isolation mode so that it could be run off grid.

[salyavin]

Thanks for the update. isolation mode is the whole point as I could for example without the equiivalent of a Tesla wall run solar pushing power to the car or pull power from the car to run some subset of the house during a power outage (which are quite rare here). As it is if the power is out and you don't have a Tesla wall equivalent the solar cuts out too to protect the line workers.

While CHAdeMO has been bidirectional for a decade (yes over 10 years!) CCS is coming. That said I think there is almost no point to release in the US as they are, they need a CCS version.

[DougWantsALeaf]

They could certainly get some pilots going.

I believe the expanding programs in the UK are one major reason why Leaf sales are continuing as strong as they are in the UK. The Ocotpus and Ovo FB groups are quite active and growing. Everyone posting how little (and sometimes negative) they are paying to charge and how often/much they push back to the grid. Honestly, the UK is a great market for the Leaf. Not too hot, and not too many trips you can take more than 500 or so miles in one direction before hitting ocean. (Brighton to Inverness is 620 miles, but that's at the extreme)

[ejm4]

Electrify America recently (about a year now) installed a four station DC charging setup in a local convenience store parking lot close to our home. Out of the eight available charge cords, only one is CHADeMO.

[DougWantsALeaf]

We have yet to find a single EA station with more than 1 Chademo.

[OrientExpress]

We have yet to find a single EA station with more than 1 Chademo.

Good thing is that you only need one at a time.

[DougWantsALeaf]

As long as its working. Thankfully the greenlots, chargepoint. Etc.. carry equal quantities.

[ejm4]

We have yet to find a single EA station with more than 1 Chademo.

Good thing is that you only need one at a time.

I watched a YouTube video from Out of Spec Motoring. They visited EA and he asked several questions and it seems as if EA plans to minimally support CHAdeMO and will focus more on CCS. Interesting enough they (EA) has partnered with Tesla to supply battery storage for EA.

[DougWantsALeaf]

Interestimg that this e motor cycle company has decided to add Chademo as a option 3 years after having ccs as an option, and offering Chademo world wide.

https://www.electrive.com/2021/02/01/en ... w-chademo/

[cwerdna]

I watched a YouTube video from Out of Spec Motoring. They visited EA and he asked several questions and it seems as if EA plans to minimally support CHAdeMO and will focus more on CCS. Interesting enough they (EA) has partnered with Tesla to supply battery storage for EA.

EA seems to be doing the bare minimal (legally required?) to "support" CHAdeMO given that they're VW of America owned and EA was part of their dieselgate penance. They got to spend $2 billion of their own $ on a network where they could stack the deck in favor of their own brands (VW, Audi, and Porsche) and their US-market interests by setting a trend/forcing the hands of other automakers, including Nissan.