smkettner
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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:24 pm

Nope, the 3.3Kw is fine. Just like any appliance it will not draw more than the connector.

So if a new vehicle needs a 50 amp connector it would use a NEMA 10-50P and of course your supply must match.

I don't care to prepare now for all future possibilities. I just want to plug in the Leaf with no added BS.

I suppose this is all needed for public charging that must accomodate every future possibility.
Just saying something basic for home charging should be available IMO.
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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:19 pm

The "something basic" exists for most of the world: the simple, plug-in, in-line, "230 volt", L2 EVSE that plugs into a common, standard, safe-to-use wall-socket.

Unfortunately, in the USA, we have no such common, standard, safe 240v wall-socket, and our 120v wall-socket (not "safe") is the closest thing available.

Also, our "regulators" have refused to move us toward a safe world standard socket, and (apparently) actually forbid us from using those "better" sockets.

Thus, these "wise" people say, a 120-volt version of the EVSE, 1.4 kW, is (essentially) all we can be allowed to use. Thus, Nissan supplies the "Emergency" (VS = Very Slow) L1 EVSE with the LEAF.

In practice, we SHOULD have a "universal" EVSE (for 120/240 operation), with safe sockets we could install in place of our "unsafe" sockets, and adapter plugs to put in the "standard" wall-socket (and leave in an often-used socket). As EVs become common, there will probably be an EVolution, but for now we are being extra-cautious, in the hopes of avoiding ANY bad press. So, in helping the USA to get off oil, and to make EVs a success, we should do the best we can, IMO.
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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:35 pm

evnow wrote:All the high quotes & expensive evse is just a short term thing. In a couple of years all the prices will come down.
First the EVSE + Install costs will go up, then they will start going down.
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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:43 pm

Hello.
I received a card from Nissan LEAF in the mail today! When you open it says on the yellow card "Congratulations. This is the start of something big" Inside the folded booklet are some cool LEAF bumper or window stickers- one says "For Sale Switching to Electric" the other sticker says "no gas, no tailpipe, no emissions."
Wonder who else received this in the mail from Nissan?
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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:02 pm

JPC2822 wrote:Wonder who else received this in the mail from Nissan?
Looks like quite a few people: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1321

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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:20 pm

anyone get an email today from Coulomb saying they're now taking orders for EVSEs and scheduling home assessments?
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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:41 pm

malloryk wrote:anyone get an email today from Coulomb saying they're now taking orders for EVSEs and scheduling home assessments?
I got the email. And this is what it said:
September 28, 2010

Special Program for California EV Buyers.

Get your networked home charging station installed before your new Nissan LEAF arrives.
Specially priced Coulomb Technologies’ ChargePoint networked home charging stations are available to order NOW.

The ChargePoint CT500 charging station:

is a 7.2 kW single output station
delivers Level II (208/240 V @ 30 A) charging
is compatible with all plug-in electric vehicles that comply with the SAE J1772™ plug-in electric vehicle-charging standard
Media coverage:
engadget
GreenBeat


Why buy a “networked” home charging station?
With your ChargePass™ card you can activate SMS and email alerts for:
Vehicle Fully Charged
Plug-Out Detection
Ground Fault Detection (GFCI Trip)
Over-Current Detection
Your ChargePass account will collect all Usage History for your home and public charging with:
Start and End times
Energy (kWh) used
Greenhouse Gases Saved
Occupied Time
Location
*Future feature coming soon: through your ChargePass account you can schedule when you want your vehicle to begin charging, thereby ensuring you receive the best utility rates.


Two ways to order your ChargePoint Networked Charging Station.
ONE:

Contact an authorized Coulomb distributor.
Place an order for your ChargePoint Networked CT500 with special limited pricing that includes an at-home inspection and installation quote.
Schedule an at-home inspection and receive a written installation quote from the installer.
Place your order for installation and receive $100 off the cost of installation.
TWO:

Contact an authorized Coulomb distributor.
Place an order for a $100 at-home inspection (refundable with purchase of installation).
Schedule an at-home inspection and receive an onsite written quote containing your ChargePoint Networked CT500 and installation.
Place your product and installation order with the installer.
Act now. Limited time offer. Contact now for details and pricing.

To order your ChargePoint Networked Charging Station or schedule your home inspection, please contact:

Clean Fuel Connection, Inc.
1-888-890-GOEV and ask for Kristine Manukyan
kristine@cleanfuelconnection.com

Coulomb Technologies is the leader in electric vehicle charging station infrastructure with networked charging stations installed in municipalities and organizations worldwide. Follow Coulomb on Twitter at twitter.com/coulombevi.

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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:27 pm

A week ago and posted it here.

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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:39 am

All the BS and no actual price :lol:
I doubt I will buy until there is click and buy competition
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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:43 am

I was quoted $1850 for the CT500, plus installation. They expect to have them in stock in the next few weeks. Is it worth the extra money to get a better charger?
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