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Re: 9/17/13: ECOtality files for bankrupcy and gets Nissan l

Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:53 pm

QueenBee wrote:
QueenBee wrote:
walterbays wrote:Maybe I'm exaggerating the rate. Every time I look on plugshare or on MNL I see another Blink station newly reported as down, and I've never seen one newly reported as repaired. I visited a station that used to work and now it's broken. Eventually they will run out of working stations to break down - except I bet before that happens they will sell the charging business to someone else and take another few million dollars in executive bonuses.
Obviously a regional thing but we are getting things repaired in Seattle area. For example one of our Blink DCQCs just got a pair of the new Yazaki "gun" connectors.
Here's a message sent out by the company doing repairs on our Blinks:

"Car Charging Group is getting Blinks back online. How do I know? EV Support is now part of the tech support team!

Yesterday we fixed the DCQC at Bellvue College. I recall trying to use the right-hand unit months ago and it didn't work. Apparently it's been out all this time, because the College made a laminated 'out of order' sign for it. Well, it turns out that there was a relay that was unplugged, and sitting next to its socket, probably since the thing was installed. Both sides are working now, and we replaced the Chademo plugs. The new ones are much improved with a thumb button activating the latch instead of that stupid lever, and they weigh about half as much as the old ones. All the DCQC's will be getting new plugs. We also fixed the touch screen in the right hand L2 unit up in the parking garage.

I will send updates as we get these repaired. Apparently there are 100 on the ASAP list, and we will eventually be visiting them all.

The Bellevue Fred Meyer DCQC install was completed back in August, but its service was never connected to PSE. I will be investigating and will send an update when I have info."

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Meanwhile, here in the Bay Area one of the connectors on the Hayward QC has been out of service for 5 months now. I sent Car Charging Group an email about six weeks ago asking what they planned to do about it, as it had been reported on Plugshare all that time. The first reply was a form email asking me a bunch of dumb questions which I had already answered in the original email, so my reply was more than a little peeved. I then got a reply from an actual person, who apologized and said that the QC was a known problem and there was on a work ticket on it. Absolutely nothing has been done since then. Seeing as how they sent out a press release a few months ago extolling how they'd brought many Blinks ( including this one IIRR) back into operation, I'm not impressed.
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Re: 9/17/13: ECOtality files for bankrupcy and gets Nissan l

Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:56 pm

QueenBee wrote:Obviously a regional thing but we are getting things repaired in Seattle area. For example one of our Blink DCQCs just got a pair of the new Yazaki "gun" connectors.
Wow, I hope some of those make it down to Oregon. My wife won't take the car on any trip that requires fast charging because those old connectors are so finicky and stupid to use. I'm also a bit sick of the lever seizing up on me. Sometimes a minute of yanking and messing with it will get me a charge; sometimes not. Just plugging in would be huge. And it would really level the playing field with the combo connector, which, frankly, is better just because all you do is push to plug it in.

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Re: 9/17/13: ECOtality files for bankrupcy and gets Nissan l

Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:20 pm

pkulak wrote:
QueenBee wrote:Obviously a regional thing but we are getting things repaired in Seattle area. For example one of our Blink DCQCs just got a pair of the new Yazaki "gun" connectors.
Wow, I hope some of those make it down to Oregon. My wife won't take the car on any trip that requires fast charging because those old connectors are so finicky and stupid to use. I'm also a bit sick of the lever seizing up on me. Sometimes a minute of yanking and messing with it will get me a charge; sometimes not. Just plugging in would be huge. And it would really level the playing field with the combo connector, which, frankly, is better just because all you do is push to plug it in.
I've not personally used any Blink DC FCs. I've only used a slight variant of the old-style non-intuitive Yazaki handles found on units at http://nissanqc.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Re: the bolded part, perhaps you're doing it wrong and making it way harder on yourself than need be?

Reading the directions on the side of the Nissan DC FC while waiting for a charge and watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=317VrBDkBjg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; made things MUCH easier for me.

The Nissan CHAdeMO DC FC's handle is very similar to the one in the video except that there's a spring loaded charging lock for the black handle that needs to be pulled back too. IIRC, to detach, you have to pull the black handle slightly, pull the charging lock back and push the black button. Again, not intuitive and not obvious, but now is a total piece of cake once you've seen instructions and/or watched video then done it at least once.

If it's finicky, it's likely broken or you're likely doing it wrong. (Which was the case for me my 1st time.)

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Re: 9/17/13: ECOtality files for bankrupcy and gets Nissan l

Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:10 am

I haven't had any issues using the "old-style" Yazaki CHAdeMO handles and I quick charge a couple times a month. I've experienced a few instances where the handle wasn't in the unlocked position when I pulled it out of the Blink or Eaton... :? But with that said, the new handle style would make things simpler. My wife hasn't had any trouble with CHAdeMO charging either. :D
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Re: 9/17/13: ECOtality files for bankrupcy and gets Nissan l

Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:32 am

cwerdna wrote: I've not personally used any Blink DC FCs. I've only used a slight variant of the old-style non-intuitive Yazaki handles found on units at http://nissanqc.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Re: the bolded part, perhaps you're doing it wrong and making it way harder on yourself than need be?

Reading the directions on the side of the Nissan DC FC while waiting for a charge and watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=317VrBDkBjg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; made things MUCH easier for me.

The Nissan CHAdeMO DC FC's handle is very similar to the one in the video except that there's a spring loaded charging lock for the black handle that needs to be pulled back too. IIRC, to detach, you have to pull the black handle slightly, pull the charging lock back and push the black button. Again, not intuitive and not obvious, but now is a total piece of cake once you've seen instructions and/or watched video then done it at least once.

If it's finicky, it's likely broken or you're likely doing it wrong. (Which was the case for me my 1st time.)
No, I know how it works. First time I did it, I thought it would be simple. It took me a couple minutes to get it working, and then I looked it up online and figured it out. But the fact that you can direct me to Youtube instructional videos means it's too difficult for what it is. Combo and Tesla got it right, and I'm just excited that ChaDeMo may be moving forward as well.

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Re: 9/17/13: ECOtality files for bankrupcy and gets Nissan l

Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:11 am

pkulak wrote: No, I know how it works. First time I did it, I thought it would be simple. It took me a couple minutes to get it working, and then I looked it up online and figured it out. But the fact that you can direct me to Youtube instructional videos means it's too difficult for what it is. Combo and Tesla got it right, and I'm just excited that ChaDeMo may be moving forward as well.
I have to agree w/everything except I can't honestly give any opinion on ease of use/intuitiveness of J1772 CCS nor Tesla Supercharger as I've used neither. The closest I've done to Supercharger is plugging in a J1772 handle into a Tesla's adapter that was already attached to the a Model S.

Have you used either?

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Re: 9/17/13: ECOtality files for bankrupcy and gets Nissan l

Mon May 12, 2014 5:01 pm

QueenBee wrote:
JeremyW wrote:
QueenBee wrote:Obviously a regional thing but we are getting things repaired in Seattle area. For example one of our Blink DCQCs just got a pair of the new Yazaki "gun" connectors.
Picture of that?! :)

I realize not a user friendly response to your question but: https://www.facebook.com/groups/seattle ... 750277198/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There's also a video at http://insideevs.com/blink-dc-fast-char ... connector/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

CCGI's financials still look pretty terrible per http://insideevs.com/carcharging-grows- ... n-in-2013/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Revenues (aka sales) for 2013 were $466K, but costs were $3.29 million, not including other expenses (i.e compensation, general and administration, etc.). So, for all of of 2013, their net loss was $24.1 million.

I mean, seriously? Spend ~$24.57 million in order to generate $466K in sales?

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Re: 9/17/13: ECOtality files for bankrupcy and gets Nissan l

Mon May 12, 2014 5:13 pm

Well, what part of that loss was capital gains?

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Re: 9/17/13: ECOtality files for bankrupcy and gets Nissan l

Mon May 12, 2014 5:25 pm

pkulak wrote:Well, what part of that loss was capital gains?
Not sure exactly what you mean by capital gains but the more than a 1/3rd of it was compensation. They have the tax filing to show you how it is broken up.

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Re: 9/17/13: ECOtality files for bankrupcy and gets Nissan l

Tue May 13, 2014 2:51 pm

QueenBee wrote:
pkulak wrote:Well, what part of that loss was capital gains?
Not sure exactly what you mean by capital gains but the more than a 1/3rd of it was compensation. They have the tax filing to show you how it is broken up.
I mean that they bought Blink. Is that part of the losses?

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