brettcgb
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Re: Blink membership plans & fees (Warning : new RPA require

Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:51 pm

thankyouOB wrote:there is nothing on the website about a fee to be a member in 2014.
brettcgb wrote:Blink went bankrupt in 2013, and was auctioned off to CarCharging http://www.carcharging.com/ in October(?).

I think we can expect a lot of changes in the next 3-9 months while the dust settles (assuming it settles).
walterbays wrote:I'd be angry to be charged $30 for hypothetical access to a bunch of broken chargers. If they fixed them and kept them fixed and kept the online status accurate then I'd be happy to pay even more. Especially if they structured it as a membership fee for discounts to per-minute fees, so people wouldn't camp out on the chargers.
Until there some enforcement with respect to ICE'd EVSE, they wont be able to do anything about camping. And I think their plan is to migrate as much as possible to billing by kWHr rather than time.
walterbays wrote:The main thing we'll learn whenever the dust finally settles is whether CarCharging bought Blink to run it as a business, or whether they bought it hoping to flip it to a new owner for a profit. Even if the latter I'd think that some amount of maintenance to their assets would be required to maintain the value of the business.
I hadn't thought of flipping... but they have fixed a few chargers. It may be nothing more than a token effort though.
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LEAFfan
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Re: Blink membership plans & fees (Warning : new RPA require

Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:29 pm

brettcgb wrote: And I think their plan is to migrate as much as possible to billing by kWHr rather than time.
In AZ, only the Utilities can bill by kW h so unless the law changes, it will have to be by time.
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Tomasz
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Leaf Number: 419520
Location: Iowa

Re: Blink membership plans & fees (Warning : new RPA require

Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:40 pm

LEAFfan wrote:
brettcgb wrote: And I think their plan is to migrate as much as possible to billing by kWHr rather than time.
In AZ, only the Utilities can bill by kW h so unless the law changes, it will have to be by time.
Which can easily be circumvented by relating the price per h to the current you are actually drawing. E.g. if your car charges at 15A level you pay $1/h, if your car draws 30A you pay $2/h. You are billed by time just different rate.

brettcgb
Posts: 172
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:34 am
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Re: Blink membership plans & fees (Warning : new RPA require

Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:47 am

Tomasz wrote:
LEAFfan wrote:
brettcgb wrote: And I think their plan is to migrate as much as possible to billing by kWHr rather than time.
In AZ, only the Utilities can bill by kW h so unless the law changes, it will have to be by time.
Which can easily be circumvented by relating the price per h to the current you are actually drawing. E.g. if your car charges at 15A level you pay $1/h, if your car draws 30A you pay $2/h. You are billed by time just different rate.
I'd had exactly the same thoughts... and someone would file a lawsuit,finally. The courts can invalidate parts of laws, so a lawsuit would be a required first step in challenging the law. The question is, would the court act in to strike down parts of the laws, or let them stand?
1st Batt Bar @ 8.5k mi. 29Aug2012 ..... 2nd @18.2k mi. 14Jun2013 ..... 3rd @(21k) mi. Aug2013 ..... 4th @ 34.0k Oct 5, 2014
SOH= 63, Hx=41.74 AHr=41.36 ..... Replaced ..... SOH=100, Hx=99.98 AHr=66.14 ..... Blue 2012 SL, 3 Yr Lease ends Dec2014

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