RockyNv
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:32 pm

Just learning about the Blue Tooth ODBII readers and was wondering how one identifies the newer versions from the older ones that I understand can cause excessive power draw when not actively in use. A lot of dongles out there for less than $10 so I guess the question is which ones are the "Good" ones or how does one tell the good from the bad for use with Android devices and the Leaf? Just spent about an hour stepping backwards through this thread and really did not hit upon anything one would consider a list of compatible dongles verified to work. I have a 2014 Leaf S that I would like to set up with something more in tune with it than my old Scan Gauge device which I have been using in my Ford F53 10 ton truck.

TimLee
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:09 pm

Turbo3 wrote: No Android version of LeafSpy currently supports Bluetooth 4.x LE and the LELink.

However, I just released for testing in May the Android version of TM-Spy (used with Tesla Model S) with Bluetooth 4.x LE support. If that goes well I will update the Android versions of LeafSpy with the Bluetooth 4.x LE code.
How is TM-Spy testing going?

Any estimate on when Bluetooth 4.x LE code will be added to LEAF Spy and LEAF Spy Pro?

Tim Lee
Chattanooga, TN

Man. Date: 03/10/11, VIN # 2026
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TimLee
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:14 pm

RockyNv wrote:Just learning about the Blue Tooth ODBII readers and was wondering how one identifies the newer versions from the older ones that I understand can cause excessive power draw when not actively in use. A lot of dongles out there for less than $10 so I guess the question is which ones are the "Good" ones or how does one tell the good from the bad for use with Android devices and the Leaf? Just spent about an hour stepping backwards through this thread and really did not hit upon anything one would consider a list of compatible dongles verified to work. I have a 2014 Leaf S that I would like to set up with something more in tune with it than my old Scan Gauge device which I have been using in my Ford F53 10 ton truck.
See here:
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... ca#p441450

Tim Lee
Chattanooga, TN

Man. Date: 03/10/11, VIN # 2026
Delivered 05-17-2011
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RockyNv
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:33 am

TimLee wrote:
RockyNv wrote:Just learning about the Blue Tooth ODBII readers and was wondering how one identifies the newer versions from the older ones that I understand can cause excessive power draw when not actively in use. A lot of dongles out there for less than $10 so I guess the question is which ones are the "Good" ones or how does one tell the good from the bad for use with Android devices and the Leaf? Just spent about an hour stepping backwards through this thread and really did not hit upon anything one would consider a list of compatible dongles verified to work. I have a 2014 Leaf S that I would like to set up with something more in tune with it than my old Scan Gauge device which I have been using in my Ford F53 10 ton truck.
See here:
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... ca#p441450
There appear to be two models recommended in that thread which is about 6 years old now however the links on your post that came up were for IOS and not Android. No new info on newer models that have improved since those were designed? A year is and eon of time for electronics and even after 6 month a thread could be considered to have reached Zombie status now.

So is it still the Sannysis V1.5 Mini ELM327 and BAFX Products 34t5 that appeared to be recommended for Android?

https://www.amazon.com/Sannysis-V1-5Min ... ini+ELM327

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005N ... SCNJAKTXJT

Some mention an extension cable as being required so you don't bang the long adapters hanging out from the dash. Any comments on how long a wire is required to set them out of the way?

Turbo3's App Store verbiage indicates that there is only one that still works correctly and is recommended, the Bluetooth Konnwei KW902:

https://www.amazon.com/KONNWEI-Bluetoot ... nwei+KW902

TimLee
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:07 am

RockyNv wrote:...
There appear to be two models recommended in that thread which is about 6 years old now however the links on your post that came up were for IOS and not Android. ...
Not sure what you were reading.
My link was from Oct 2015.

It included links to two WiFi OBDII adapters.

Yes they were in iOS discussions because for a long time WiFi was all iOS could use.

Most Android users have been using Bluetooth adapters.
But about three years ago most of the Chinese produced product that claimed to meet a new standard did not and would not work.

The one unit that Turbo3 lists is currently the only one that will likely work.

So currently Android doesn't have too many options.
A single Bluetooth adapter that may work.
And the WiFi adapters.
There are more than the two I listed.

WiFi drawback for a long time was they were expensive (originally over $100).
Costs came down.
Now their drawback is power draw.

So on iOS Turbo3 has changed to low energy Bluetooth.
But he hasn't added that to Android yet.

Extension cable I use is about 2 1/2 feet.
I still need to put in clips to hold it.
For now I just leave my Bluetooth adapter laying in floor next to driver's door.

Tim Lee
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RockyNv
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:30 pm

When I followed the links back to the sources of the original recommendations for the non-IOS models it brought me back to 2010 however it was late and I was tired then again here I am coming off a long work day dealing with systems issues and am unwinding here so I can go to sleep. Not a big IOS fan as I have to use an Iphone for work and its horrible in my regular business usage compared to the S3 or S5 Android that I use personally so I bypassed anything that was in the IOS specific thread.

The KONNWEI KW902 is only $10 and if its the compatibility leader then that's the way to go. Do the colors make any difference or are folks just that fashion conscious that basic black won't do for a utility device?

co2112
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:33 pm

Leaf Spy Pro question.

In reviewing the Log file is Energy the amount of watts used per trip? So 13833 is 13.833 kWh used for a trip. Is there any part of the log that tells me my starting and ending kWh? I am trying to determine my electrical use at my new house since it has now doubled. I do have more appliances that run off electricity and not natural gas and I am having to charge the car to full each day after work instead of only charging at work. My average home usage was 23.6 kWh per day and now it is running 44.9 per day.

With my new rates switching from SMUD to PGE my price per kWh has almost tripled on average as well so I am now reassessing the cost of owning the EV or paying for gas. My commute is 80-85 miles per day. Using 23.405 kWh (if Energy) if the right column per day. With 2/3's coming from charging at home and the rest at work.
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TimLee
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:55 pm

RockyNv wrote:...
The KONNWEI KW902 is only $10 and if its the compatibility leader then that's the way to go. Do the colors make any difference or are folks just that fashion conscious that basic black won't do for a utility device?
I don't think the color matters.

I didn't see one at $10.
But some at $14.

Tim Lee
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RockyNv
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:52 am

TimLee wrote:
RockyNv wrote:...
The KONNWEI KW902 is only $10 and if its the compatibility leader then that's the way to go. Do the colors make any difference or are folks just that fashion conscious that basic black won't do for a utility device?
I don't think the color matters.

I didn't see one at $10.
But some at $14.

Check these out:

$10 with free shipping with no minimum order:

https://www.amazon.com/Konnwei-Bluetoot ... NWEI+KW902

https://www.amazon.com/KONNWEI-Bluetoot ... MJFARNYC5V


$10.90 with free shipping on orders over $49:

https://www.amazon.com/KONNWEI-Bluetoot ... NEEMMRYTYN

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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:29 am

co2112 wrote:Leaf Spy Pro question.

In reviewing the Log file is Energy the amount of watts used per trip? So 13833 is 13.833 kWh used for a trip. Is there any part of the log that tells me my starting and ending kWh? I am trying to determine my electrical use at my new house since it has now doubled. I do have more appliances that run off electricity and not natural gas and I am having to charge the car to full each day after work instead of only charging at work. My average home usage was 23.6 kWh per day and now it is running 44.9 per day.

With my new rates switching from SMUD to PGE my price per kWh has almost tripled on average as well so I am now reassessing the cost of owning the EV or paying for gas. My commute is 80-85 miles per day. Using 23.405 kWh (if Energy) if the right column per day. With 2/3's coming from charging at home and the rest at work.
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