DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Leaf Spy Help!!

Tue May 15, 2018 6:12 am

ClarD wrote:
GerryAZ wrote: I have been using LEAF Spy for a long time so I don't think that one version change would make a significant difference to the readings.
You could scroll backwards to find comments from people that saw a 2.5% drop from one version to another. The next version was supposed to have undone that change, but mine never returned to where it had been previously.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... oh#p521536
irrc, that only applied to 2018's.

I don't really see anything "that" unusual. The pre 2018 LEAFs exhibited an extreme ability to bounce numbers around quite a bit. This is less than a 5 % swing. Definitely in the high range of possibility but still remains VERY possible.

Also keep in mind a change in driving habits would also account for easily half the difference here. I can post the same from my car if you like but this is hardly an unknown situation.
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Re: Leaf Spy Help!!

Tue May 15, 2018 6:23 am

TobyYarwood wrote:Can someone please tell me why these two leafspy screenshots are so different? The dealer gave me the first to prove that the four year old batttery was in perfect condition and the history of daily commutes and slow charges seems to fit. One month later I got leafspy myself and took the second screenshot.
The damning screenshots aside, a red flag would immediately go off in my mind if a dealer offered to show me a LeafSpy screenshot. I mean, that's a great thing to do, but if they come right out and offer it to you, that immediately makes me think they are up to something. And if it's only a screenshot and not a live shot, that's even more suspicious.

Having said that, as another poster commented, the car is still doing very well after 40K miles. My car is at 74% SOH after only 15K miles, so I wouldn't worry too much!
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Location: Near Seattle, WA

Re: Leaf Spy Help!!

Tue May 15, 2018 7:46 am

GerryAZ wrote:2. The AHr, SOH, and Hx readings on the dealer's screen match the default values for a new battery with associated LBC (lithium battery controller) reset.
I've never seen a battery after a reset. Thanks. I've driven/charged a four year old battery with roughly a 10% capacity loss to the pegged values for AHr, SOH and Hx.
GerryAZ wrote:3. The dealer's screen shows cell voltages that look like a full charge, but SOC is shown as 19.4%.
This is really strange. Has anyone ever seen this before? Could a reset or new battery cause this?
GerryAZ wrote:Possibilities that come to mind:
1. Shallow discharge cycles and gentle driving are causing the LBC to misjudge the actual battery capacity and health.
2. Battery was replaced, LBC is learning the characteristics of the new battery, and initial capacity loss is showing on your screen. If so, AHr, SOH, and Hx readings should stabilize soon in your mild climate.
3. The dealer reset the LBC without replacing the battery and the LBC is relearning the actual battery characteristics over time. If so, AHr, SOH, and Hx readings will continue to drop until they match the actual battery characteristics.
4. Slower and deeper discharge cycles with DQCQs caused the LBC to overestimate the actual battery capacity and health. The LBC is relearning the actual battery characteristics over time. If so, AHr, SOH, and Hx readings will continue to drop until they match the actual battery characteristics.
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borugee
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Delivery Date: 18 Mar 2018
Location: Dallas TX

Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Tue May 15, 2018 6:26 pm

Turbo3 wrote: Release version 0.44.116 is the latest version of LeafSpy Pro.
Play store seems to have 0.44.116

My Phone has .42.116

When I go to play-store to install it say already installed and won't update to the lates.

If I uninstall-reinstall I will loose my history and settings.

Any trick to update without loosing my history?
Borugee
2018 SL ; 03/18 Delivery ; Dallas TX ; @10k Mile ; SOH=94.83,AHr=109.47,Hx=109.12

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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Tue May 15, 2018 7:47 pm

borugee wrote:
Turbo3 wrote: Release version 0.44.116 is the latest version of LeafSpy Pro.
Play store seems to have 0.44.116

My Phone has .42.116

When I go to play-store to install it say already installed and won't update to the lates.

If I uninstall-reinstall I will loose my history and settings.

Any trick to update without loosing my history?
You actually have the latest version.
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borugee
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Location: Dallas TX

Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Thu May 17, 2018 8:18 pm

GerryAZ wrote:
borugee wrote:
Turbo3 wrote: Release version 0.44.116 is the latest version of LeafSpy Pro.
Play store seems to have 0.44.116

My Phone has .42.116

When I go to play-store to install it say already installed and won't update to the lates.

If I uninstall-reinstall I will loose my history and settings.

Any trick to update without loosing my history?
You actually have the latest version.


@GarryAZ : I am confused. Are you saying 0.42.116 = 0.44.166. Are they same??
Borugee
2018 SL ; 03/18 Delivery ; Dallas TX ; @10k Mile ; SOH=94.83,AHr=109.47,Hx=109.12

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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Fri May 18, 2018 4:41 am

Yes, 42.116 displayed on the cell voltage screen in the app is the latest, for some reason Play Store shows 44.116 in the description.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
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harm
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Delivery Date: 14 Mar 2018
Leaf Number: 304402
Location: San Jose CA

Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Fri May 18, 2018 11:35 am

Hi, I have a 2018 US Leaf SL and am using LeafSpy Pro v 1.7.38 on iOS 11.3.1.
Almost everything works as expected except:
1. + <infinite>% GIDS
2. Tire pressure never shows up

See pic: https://www.dropbox.com/s/62oksfx10tzva ... y.png?dl=0

Any help appreciated.
Harm
2018 SL ; purchased 3/2018 ; 1472 miles, SOH 98.65, Hx 108.50
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Turbo3
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Fri May 18, 2018 4:46 pm

harm wrote:Hi, I have a 2018 US Leaf SL and am using LeafSpy Pro v 1.7.38 on iOS 11.3.1.
Almost everything works as expected except:
1. + <infinite>% GIDS
2. Tire pressure never shows up

See pic: https://www.dropbox.com/s/62oksfx10tzva ... y.png?dl=0

Any help appreciated.
Don't yet know how to read tire pressures on a 2018 so that is normal for now.

Can you send me an ELM trace (see bottom of help for how to do it) and I will look at the % Gids problem.

calverajarda
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro

Tue May 29, 2018 2:10 am

Hi,
i have a trouble red bars/shunting.
I have purchased Leaf (used) and all ok, after 100% charge shunts ok (all blue)
After my capacity loss cca 4Ah in 8 days i have all shunts red. I tried:
Cca 8x charge to 100% (whitout onboard timer) - mostly red
discharge to turlte then charge to 100% - still red
I am standart charging to 80% with onboard timer. Once per week to 100% with onboard timer
Voltage difference is ok (low) but all red.

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