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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro (previously Leaf Battery App)

Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:50 pm

Turbo3 wrote:
JeremyW wrote:
Staque wrote:Has anyone looked into the CAN messages related to remote climate control?
Working on it! :) I found a 68 msg with a payload of 00 00 at the beginning of a climate control request from carwings and I tried sending it manually but it didn't do anything. Will give it another go in a few days.
Do you mean msgID of 0x068 on the CAR CAN bus?
068C was the message on the EV bus, but I found that the TCU wakes up the VCM over a dedicated logic line, not CAN. Thus making remote wakeup much more difficult. :?
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro (previously Leaf Battery App)

Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:23 pm

TomT wrote:I wonder how many people bother to reregister their tire locations after a rotation or the like so that the locations actually are correct and the display will have true meaning... I know I don't bother...
I don't bother either. The rotators just move them front to back so now I know that the two front readouts are the back and vice-versa.
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro (previously Leaf Battery App)

Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:27 pm

trojanm50 wrote: 1. Is it a problem to leave the OBDII plugged in always?
Just to be safe, take your dongle apart (easy with the four screws), and switch the wire on pin 16 to pin 8 which will change it from power always on to switched power.
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro (previously Leaf Battery App)

Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:39 pm

I've had my OBDII adapter plugged in and running 24/7 for about six months. If I press a button on my key fob, I can get a reading from my house.

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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro (previously Leaf Battery App)

Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:47 pm

Turbo3 wrote:1. It will drain the battery if you leave it in for a few weeks without driving while the charge cable is plugged in.
Actually, I was in the UK for 5 days and came home to a dead 12VAC; had a spare battery in my old ICE to save the day but no, I'd not recommend leaving the LEAF plugged in and the ELM in for more than a couple days.
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro (previously Leaf Battery App)

Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:48 pm

JeremyW wrote:
JeremyW wrote:
Staque wrote:Has anyone looked into the CAN messages related to remote climate control?
Working on it! :) I found a 68 msg with a payload of 00 00 at the beginning of a climate control request from carwings and I tried sending it manually but it didn't do anything. Will give it another go in a few days.
068C was the message on the EV bus, but I found that the TCU wakes up the VCM over a dedicated logic line, not CAN. Thus making remote wakeup much more difficult. :?
Is the message now 0x68C not 0x068? Or was that a typo?

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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro (previously Leaf Battery App)

Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:21 pm

68 was a typo. It's 68C with a payload of 00. First message on the EV bus during startup/wakeup.
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro (previously Leaf Battery App)

Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:22 am

I have two sets of rims/tires that I swap out for the winter. Discount Tire will reprogram the TPMS for the other set, but they do it wrong every time requiring a follow-up visit.

I couldn't tell if Leaf Spy Pro will reprogram the car to work with different TPMS sensors or not. I will definitely buy it if that is the case to avoid trips to have them reprogrammed.
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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro (previously Leaf Battery App)

Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:57 am

reeler wrote:I have two sets of rims/tires that I swap out for the winter. Discount Tire will reprogram the TPMS for the other set, but they do it wrong every time requiring a follow-up visit.

I couldn't tell if Leaf Spy Pro will reprogram the car to work with different TPMS sensors or not. I will definitely buy it if that is the case to avoid trips to have them reprogrammed.
If your Leaf is able to see both sets after they program it then Leaf Spy Pro can do the same. The registration process is handled by the Leaf not by Leaf Spy Pro. The only thing Leaf Spy Pro does is tell the Leaf to start the registration process just like the Dealer's tool does. Leaf Spy Pro then checks the status for completion or fail.

Prior to running the procedure you must adjust each tire to a specific pressure. You set them to 35, 32, 29 26 PSI starting with the front left tire and going clockwise. Then drive and run the app. This way the Leaf can tell the location by the pressure it is sent by each TPMS unit.

So if the TPMS units are compatible with the Leaf it should work.

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Re: Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro (previously Leaf Battery App)

Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:10 pm

Project Update:
* Just ordered a Kindle Fire HD to use for Leaf Spy testing. So expect working Kindle versions of Leaf Spy in January.
* New Braking screen should be available for testing in the next couple of days. It will probably still have the one remaining issue but should be good enough for some feed back. It uses a special technique which I have not fully mastered yet but I am close. (Connection might drop after sitting on brake screen for 10 to 45 minutes. For debug there is a timer in lower right corner that stops when this happens so you can give me the exact time if it does this.)
* New orientation symbol for tire pressure sub-panel so new users know how the psi numbers match up with the car (assuming proper tire registration).

If anyone has an old android device that does not have GPS but is running android 2.2 or higher I need one for testing to make GPS optional for Leaf Spy and Leaf Spy Pro. It can be a donation to the project or I can return it to you after I get the app working. Best way to check if your old device is what I need is to go to Play Store. If you are allowed to install Leaf Spy Lite but not Leaf Spy or Leaf Spy Pro that is what I am looking for.

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