Wagahai
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Delivery Date: 12 Apr 2012
Location: St. Louis, Missouri

Re: LEAFs in St. Louis, Missouri?

Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:59 am

I've had range anxiety and I'm only going 50 miles round-trip.. although from what you've described, you will probably be fine.

I start with the car pre-heated in the garage., but without running heat I easily get down to 30% remaining on some days.
Obviously 30% isn't "dead" but it's not the 30 miles you'd hope for either. If I go a bit out of my way in the evenings, I get the "low battery" warning pretty easy.
Add heat (or worse, defrost) into the mix and.. yah.. never been stranded yet, but I don't have the comfortable feeling.

Julieinthecity
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Delivery Date: 25 Mar 2014

Re: LEAFs in St. Louis, Missouri?

Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:45 am

I'm just worried that I would have to run the heat with kids in the car. That might significantly lessen the range.

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ksnogas2112
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Leaf Number: 021881
Location: Lenexa KS (Kansas City)
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Re: LEAFs in St. Louis, Missouri?

Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:28 am

Julie,
Just popping in from the other side of the state...

This past winter has been bitter. This was my second winter with the Leaf and used a lot more heat this winter than last. I've got a 2012 so no heat pump. There were times when I hit 100% charge and only got 40-50 miles with an 18 month old battery. But that was running heat the entire time. Usually I was getting 50-80 miles depending. Last week when the weather was nicer I was able to pull 80 miles on a single charge through the rolling hills of KC but none of that was highway. Car will be 2 years old in June.
Tom in KS
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CoffeeAddict
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Joined: Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:08 pm
Delivery Date: 01 Nov 2013
Leaf Number: 412972
Location: O'Fallon MO

Re: LEAFs in St. Louis, Missouri?

Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:16 am

jkoeller wrote:When I was in the market for a Leaf back in mid-November, the St. Peters Nissan dealership's DCQC was up and operational on the East side of the dealership. He said they turn it off at night, though. The West County dealer had theirs installed out front. It was just put in the week before but not operational yet. It should be by now I would think. He said it would be accessible 24x7.
I've used the St. Charles Nissan DC a few times. They leave it "on" at night but have a lock in place over the charging plug. Sometimes they remember to lock it, sometimes they don't so in a pinch it *could* be available. They do have a few L2's that are available anytime, DC is supposed to be only when the dealership is open.

I would be surprised if West County left their's available 24/7, the folks at St. Charles said it was a Nissan liability thing since it was the very high voltage, so they only wanted it on during business hours. Though would not by any means be the first time a dealer was misinformed.

CoffeeAddict
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Location: O'Fallon MO

Re: LEAFs in St. Louis, Missouri?

Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:24 am

Julieinthecity wrote:I was wondering if anyone can give me their real life experience in regards to range lost in the extremes of St. Louis weather? I would usually drive < 30 miles a day but could go up 65 sometimes. We were thinking of the SV or SL because of the heat pump. My husband has a volt but it only seats four so the leaf would be the family car. It would be used for school drop offs/ pick ups, errands, hockey games. I could charge between trips. 45 miles would be the longest between charges. Any insight on whether the Leaf would work for us would be appreciated.


Julie
Hi Julie,

I'm out in O'Fallon MO and commute 60 miles each day with the Leaf. The majority of that is highway driving. I drove the Leaf all winter but I'm a bit crazy and didn't really use the heat very often. Without using the heat (just seat/steering wheel heater) I would charge to 100% every day and would arrive back at home somewhere in the low 20%'s genereally. I did pre-heat also so the way home was always a bit colder than the way there. If you would only max out at 45miles before having the ability to charge again you shouldn't have any issues.

Do you currently have a L2 station at home? That will give you a lot more freedom if you have multiple trips in the day and didn't really want to have to worry about energy usage.

Julieinthecity
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Delivery Date: 25 Mar 2014

Re: LEAFs in St. Louis, Missouri?

Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:48 pm

We will be installing the clipper creek L2 charger. I found a good deal on an SV premium and we are supposed to pick it up tomorrow!

CoffeeAddict
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Joined: Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:08 pm
Delivery Date: 01 Nov 2013
Leaf Number: 412972
Location: O'Fallon MO

Re: LEAFs in St. Louis, Missouri?

Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:21 pm

Julieinthecity wrote:We will be installing the clipper creek L2 charger. I found a good deal on an SV premium and we are supposed to pick it up tomorrow!

Congrats! Welcome to the club.

Belvedere
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Delivery Date: 04 Jun 2014

Re: LEAFs in St. Louis, Missouri?

Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:26 pm

Just saying hello, fellow STL Leaf owners. After mulling over a Leaf for a couple of years we finally pulled the trigger. My wife's work moved closer to home and they have a few LVL 2 chargers available to employees at no cost.

If you saw a nod and wave from a crazy guy in a Leaf in the St. Charles area, it was probably me :D.

leafdriver90
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Delivery Date: 25 Feb 2013

Re: LEAFs in St. Louis, Missouri?

Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:04 pm

Ran into problems at West County Nissan in Ballwin, MO (St. Louis County). Was running errands in the area and vehicle was down to 5 miles and a single bar. Arrived at dealership, both Level 2 space and DC Fast Charge/Level 3 were occupied with dealership (gas) vehicles, that obviously were not actively charging. Went inside to request vehicle(s) get moved. Receptionist made multiple pages to porter with no response. Manager on duty later appears at desk, yells and raises voice at me saying "this is a business, we are here to sell cars". Salesman present asked if I purchased my vehicle here, my response was "it doesn't matter". Eventually one of their cars was moved and I was able to charge. They acted like they were doing me a favor allowing me to charge here. I rarely avail myself to the charging stations at dealerships but its nice to have in situations such as this. Nissan markets this benefit, I get that each dealership is independently owned and operated but this whole experience really upset me. Surely Nissan corporate can work to ensure all LEAF owners/lessees receive access to the charging station. I ultimately was able to charge and made it home.

mechguy
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Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:16 am
Delivery Date: 12 Jun 2014
Leaf Number: 333548

Re: LEAFs in St. Louis, Missouri?

Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:23 am

I picked up a 2014 SL on 12/6. It had been on the lot since June and they had just marked it down $10k. Now I've just got to get 240V run out to my garage. :)

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