dalamchops
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Joined: Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:09 am
Delivery Date: 17 Jun 2013

Re: Any Leafs delivered to Georgia yet?

Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:28 pm

scubayachts wrote:Hey Everybody,
I am looking to lease either a SV or SL. Stopped by Capitol City Nissan the other day to check out the leaf for the first time!

I would appreciate any feedback on what your lease terms where. Are you guys getting the same SV/ SL lease deals as other parts of the country? Please list the dealer you used and your terms!

Thanks everybody with the help!

Gregg
Got this from Capitol (After gwinnett lady gave me crappy offer)

24 mo, 15k
Blue SV (Upgraded with LED kit and Quickcharge port)

$1034 down, $279 x 23mo (including taxes)

Total $7451...

Subtract the 5k from GA and you do the math.

I've been spending $200 a month on gas lol.

os2baba
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:47 am
Delivery Date: 07 Jun 2013
Leaf Number: 404844
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: Any Leafs delivered to Georgia yet?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:53 pm

scubayachts wrote:Hey Everybody,
I am looking to lease either a SV or SL. Stopped by Capitol City Nissan the other day to check out the leaf for the first time!

I would appreciate any feedback on what your lease terms where. Are you guys getting the same SV/ SL lease deals as other parts of the country? Please list the dealer you used and your terms!

Thanks everybody with the help!

Gregg
I leased mine 2 weeks ago from Regal Nissan. I paid $313/pm 24 months $0 down 12K miles. The salesman was very good Rory Hotchkiss (404 917 7053). That's his cell number. I got VPP pricing (http://www.insidenissan.com/monthly_plans.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) because the company I work for is in Nissan's list of companies they offer special pricing. I'm loving it so far.

greengate
Posts: 544
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:31 pm
Delivery Date: 04 Feb 2013
Location: Wilmette, IL

Re: Any Leafs delivered to Georgia yet?

Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:11 pm

os2baba wrote:
scubayachts wrote:Hey Everybody,
I am looking to lease either a SV or SL. Stopped by Capitol City Nissan the other day to check out the leaf for the first time!

I would appreciate any feedback on what your lease terms where. Are you guys getting the same SV/ SL lease deals as other parts of the country? Please list the dealer you used and your terms!

Thanks everybody with the help!

Gregg
I leased mine 2 weeks ago from Regal Nissan. I paid $313/pm 24 months $0 down 12K miles. The salesman was very good Rory Hotchkiss (404 917 7053). That's his cell number. I got VPP pricing (http://www.insidenissan.com/monthly_plans.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) because the company I work for is in Nissan's list of companies they offer special pricing. I'm loving it so far.

I thought they were leasing for $199 a month for 24 months, 15K miles per year and no money down??

os2baba
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:47 am
Delivery Date: 07 Jun 2013
Leaf Number: 404844
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: Any Leafs delivered to Georgia yet?

Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:46 pm

greengate wrote:
os2baba wrote:
scubayachts wrote:Hey Everybody,
I am looking to lease either a SV or SL. Stopped by Capitol City Nissan the other day to check out the leaf for the first time!

I would appreciate any feedback on what your lease terms where. Are you guys getting the same SV/ SL lease deals as other parts of the country? Please list the dealer you used and your terms!

Thanks everybody with the help!

Gregg
I leased mine 2 weeks ago from Regal Nissan. I paid $313/pm 24 months $0 down 12K miles. The salesman was very good Rory Hotchkiss (404 917 7053). That's his cell number. I got VPP pricing (http://www.insidenissan.com/monthly_plans.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) because the company I work for is in Nissan's list of companies they offer special pricing. I'm loving it so far.

I thought they were leasing for $199 a month for 24 months, 15K miles per year and no money down??
I think those were the prices back in February. The lowest price was the S for $203 with you having to pay the taxes. I got the SV with the LED/QC package. I shopped around. Couldn't find a better price when I bought it. But prices change every month. This month, it may go up or down.

ericbdavies
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Joined: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:59 pm

Re: Any Leafs delivered to Georgia yet?

Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:11 pm

I'm just getting to the party here... Been perusing the forums a lot the past couple days as I'm heavily considering the lease of a LEAF. Even with all the reading and research I've done, I still have a couple questions that maybe some of you could help answer.

1) How does the new TAVT work with the lease of a LEAF? From what I read, the leasing company would pay and then the lease payments should be exempt from sales tax. Is this the case? Or does the dealer pass on a portion of that 6.5% to you when buying?

2) With the Georgia tax credit, is there any way that works retroactively? Like I could get money Back paid this past April (for 2012), or will I just see the credit next year when I do my state taxes?

3) Also regarding the tax credit - I know that it is 20% of the capitalized cost. Is this the gross capitalized cost (BEFORE the federal $7500 tax credit) or the net capitalized cost (AFTER credit applied). I'm guessing it is gross but just want to make sure.

4) Last and most important. How practical is a LEAF for me? I live in Kennesaw and commute about 50-60 miles per day - and with my commuter car I drive less than 12k miles per year. Will I have range anxiety? I do sit in rush hour traffic often, and it seems like that kind of traffic doesn't hurt range at all from what I've read.

greengate
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Delivery Date: 04 Feb 2013
Location: Wilmette, IL

Re: Any Leafs delivered to Georgia yet?

Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:00 am

ericbdavies wrote:I'm just getting to the party here... Been perusing the forums a lot the past couple days as I'm heavily considering the lease of a LEAF. Even with all the reading and research I've done, I still have a couple questions that maybe some of you could help answer.

1) How does the new TAVT work with the lease of a LEAF? From what I read, the leasing company would pay and then the lease payments should be exempt from sales tax. Is this the case? Or does the dealer pass on a portion of that 6.5% to you when buying?

2) With the Georgia tax credit, is there any way that works retroactively? Like I could get money Back paid this past April (for 2012), or will I just see the credit next year when I do my state taxes?

3) Also regarding the tax credit - I know that it is 20% of the capitalized cost. Is this the gross capitalized cost (BEFORE the federal $7500 tax credit) or the net capitalized cost (AFTER credit applied). I'm guessing it is gross but just want to make sure.

4) Last and most important. How practical is a LEAF for me? I live in Kennesaw and commute about 50-60 miles per day - and with my commuter car I drive less than 12k miles per year. Will I have range anxiety? I do sit in rush hour traffic often, and it seems like that kind of traffic doesn't hurt range at all from what I've read.


Not from GA, I can't comment on the taxes when one leases. Seems all states are different.

Your commuting distance of 50 to 60 miles a day, (round trip,) would be no problem. Figure 4-5 miles per hour of charge on 110 and 16 or so miles per hour on 220 with the 6K charger...in which case you would need an 220 EVSE at home for the 220 system or an upgraded unit that comes with the car. If you could charge at work, that would be great..even on 110.

I drive less per day so charge at home on the 110 that came with the car and where I live there are several free places to charge on 220.

Hope this helps.

(Really a great car, BTW!!)

os2baba
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Joined: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:47 am
Delivery Date: 07 Jun 2013
Leaf Number: 404844
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: Any Leafs delivered to Georgia yet?

Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:29 pm

ericbdavies wrote: 1) How does the new TAVT work with the lease of a LEAF? From what I read, the leasing company would pay and then the lease payments should be exempt from sales tax. Is this the case? Or does the dealer pass on a portion of that 6.5% to you when buying?
I don't know the exact percentage of the TAVT, but you have to pay it. Either as part of the lease or up front.
ericbdavies wrote: 2) With the Georgia tax credit, is there any way that works retroactively? Like I could get money Back paid this past April (for 2012), or will I just see the credit next year when I do my state taxes?
You can check with your accountant. But I don't see how you could possibly be able to collect a credit on something that you hadn't purchased in 2011 for taxes you paid in April for 2011.
ericbdavies wrote: 3) Also regarding the tax credit - I know that it is 20% of the capitalized cost. Is this the gross capitalized cost (BEFORE the federal $7500 tax credit) or the net capitalized cost (AFTER credit applied). I'm guessing it is gross but just want to make sure.
I haven't checked whether it's gross or net. I'd guess net. But the SV lists for $34,000, so even after $7500, it's more than the $25,000 that would be required for the $5000 tax credit. I think I have seen other posts on this forum with details on how that works.
ericbdavies wrote: 4) Last and most important. How practical is a LEAF for me? I live in Kennesaw and commute about 50-60 miles per day - and with my commuter car I drive less than 12k miles per year. Will I have range anxiety? I do sit in rush hour traffic often, and it seems like that kind of traffic doesn't hurt range at all from what I've read.
You will need a L2 charger at home or the EVSE Upgrade. The leaf takes 16-20 hours to charge the car from empty. With 60 miles, you will likely not have enough time to fully charge the vehicle for the next day - unless you can charge it at work. With 220V and the SV model (6.6 kW charge), you should be able to charge the car in 4 hours. Remember that you will get slightly less mileage on highways than in city traffic. But 60 miles should be fine.

I give myself about 30 miles one way from home so that I have 30 miles to get back leaving about 10-15 miles as a buffer for missing a turn or something. I just got my leaf about a month ago and haven't pushed it to the mileage limit yet. But 30 miles should be able to get you to most parts of Atlanta and back.

bronsonb
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Delivery Date: 23 Nov 2012
Leaf Number: 021512

Re: Any Leafs delivered to Georgia yet?

Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:39 am

ericbdavies wrote: 1) How does the new TAVT work with the lease of a LEAF? From what I read, the leasing company would pay and then the lease payments should be exempt from sales tax. Is this the case? Or does the dealer pass on a portion of that 6.5% to you when buying?

2) With the Georgia tax credit, is there any way that works retroactively? Like I could get money Back paid this past April (for 2012), or will I just see the credit next year when I do my state taxes?

3) Also regarding the tax credit - I know that it is 20% of the capitalized cost. Is this the gross capitalized cost (BEFORE the federal $7500 tax credit) or the net capitalized cost (AFTER credit applied). I'm guessing it is gross but just want to make sure.

4) Last and most important. How practical is a LEAF for me? I live in Kennesaw and commute about 50-60 miles per day - and with my commuter car I drive less than 12k miles per year. Will I have range anxiety? I do sit in rush hour traffic often, and it seems like that kind of traffic doesn't hurt range at all from what I've read.
Hi -
As for #1, I'm not certain myself. I just received my tag renewal, and it's still not clear. I'd check the DMV Web site or call you county tax commissioner. I am grandfathered in since I leased last year. When the law was first written, I believe folks who leased were getting doubly screwed (monthly tax AND the tax on the capitalized cost of the car). However, I had heard the legislature was going to fix it. Perhaps the dealer would know? But I'd make sure I knew BEFORE I leased one going forward.

For #2, the tax doesn't work retro. However, one poster did effectively make that happen by upping his withholding allowance on his w4 (is that the right form) to effectively give himself the 5K rebate in advance. Then next year, he puts the withholding number back down to normal. Note: I'm not giving tax advice here...just saying what I read one other person did. If it were me, I'd just wait until next year to get the credit and treat it as a bonus (and stick it in the bank).

for #3, as I read the GA tax info on that, it says "the lessor of 20% of the vehicle cost or $5,000 tax credit...for purchase or lease..." So I would read that as gross capitalized cost (i.e., the MSRP of the car). I know I was safe either way since mine was over $25K even with the capitalized cost reduction. Figure also that with the S models have a drive out price of $16K that takes into account BOTH the Fed and State of GA tax credit, that MUST be how it's calculated. Again, you might want to verify with the authorities, but I think you'd be good.

#4: If that mileage is total round trip, I think you're golden. Does that include any "let's run out at lunch" trips? If so, then you might even be able to get by with an 80% charge, but I would go to 100% daily until I knew I could get by on the 80%. As the other poster noted, the ability to charge just a little during the day would give you peace of mind.

Know that the car does "burn" more battery at highway speeds, but if you're stuck in traffic, it does much better. Maybe you can get Nissan to loan you one for a day so you can take it home and drive it to work and back to see how it does at highway speeds. Know that in the winter, if you use the heater, you'll really impact range (but you could always "pre warm" the car at home while it's plugged in).
Bronson B
Marietta, GA

bronsonb
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Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:19 pm
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Leaf Number: 021512

Re: Any Leafs delivered to Georgia yet?

Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:35 am

Update on the Georgia vehicle tax. The tax DOES, of course, apply to leases, and it applies at the time the vehicle is leased. I am not, however, certain if it applies to the value of the lease (i.e., the total of all the monthly payments) or the value of the car. Obviously, that would make a difference.

You will not, however, have to pay any monthly tax on the lease payment. There was a time briefly this year where lessors had to pay BOTH the up front tax AND the monthly lease payment tax. The legislature has fixed that problem.

This article looks at the fix (http://www.autonews.com/article/2013032 ... z2YpanLuNR), but like I said, I'm not clear on what the 6.5% tax applies to (total value of car or value of lease).
Bronson B
Marietta, GA

dalamchops
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Re: Any Leafs delivered to Georgia yet?

Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:13 pm

bronsonb wrote:Update on the Georgia vehicle tax. The tax DOES, of course, apply to leases, and it applies at the time the vehicle is leased. I am not, however, certain if it applies to the value of the lease (i.e., the total of all the monthly payments) or the value of the car. Obviously, that would make a difference.

You will not, however, have to pay any monthly tax on the lease payment. There was a time briefly this year where lessors had to pay BOTH the up front tax AND the monthly lease payment tax. The legislature has fixed that problem.

This article looks at the fix (http://www.autonews.com/article/2013032 ... z2YpanLuNR), but like I said, I'm not clear on what the 6.5% tax applies to (total value of car or value of lease).
It applies to the invoice value of the car. Most people would roll the tax into the monthly payments.

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