maria0510
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Could someone in the Loveland, CO area check out a car for me?

Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:20 pm

Hey! I'm looking into potentially purchasing a Nissan Leaf located in Loveland, CO. I live in Pennsylvania, so I was hoping someone in the area would be willing to take a look at the car and let me know what they think. I'm hoping the dealership is on someone's route home from work or something so it's an easy 15 minute stop. This is my first time buying a car, as I'm about to start college in the fall, so I'm hoping to get someone to look at this car for me.

Here are the things I’m most concerned about that I'd like to be checked out:
Damage or blemishes on the outside and interior of the car
Any obvious mechanical issues
Condition of the tires and tread depth
Any other obvious issues

Let me know if you think you could help me out by sending a reply or private message!
Thanks!
Maria

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Re: Could someone in the Loveland, CO area check out a car for me?

Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:07 pm

I suggest that you read my used leaf buying guide. I'll link it below. Also tell us your range needs. At worst you will be better prepared to look at the car yourself.

https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 2&p=538030
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Re: Could someone in the Loveland, CO area check out a car for me?

Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:20 am

+1 on what Leftie said.

Why a Leaf from so far away?

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Re: Could someone in the Loveland, CO area check out a car for me?

Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:05 am

Not to say that the above is one, but lately I've rejected a few posts that were copy & pastes of other posts, by spammers. The OP half-raises a red flag by not including anything Leaf or even EV specific.
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Re: Could someone in the Loveland, CO area check out a car for me?

Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:59 am

do you want me to put a deposit on it for you ....LOL
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Re: Could someone in the Loveland, CO area check out a car for me?

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:03 am

I don't see anything on the local CL in Loveland, FWIW, although not all dealers advertise there of course.

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Re: Could someone in the Loveland, CO area check out a car for me?

Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:13 am

Good afternoon. I'm Maria's parent, and am helping guide her through her first car purchase. We appreciate the responses and I just wanted to jump in and help provide some additional information.


LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:07 pm
I suggest that you read my used leaf buying guide. I'll link it below. Also tell us your range needs. At worst you will be better prepared to look at the car yourself.

https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 2&p=538030
This is great information Leftie. We had found this guide this morning and read through it. It answered a question that I've been wondering since we started our search: namely how to judge battery health and what to expect of future battery performance.

Range needs are mostly to school and back; 27 miles each way. The school can offer at least a 120v outlet, and we spoke to someone who heads maintenance that said they'd be open to installing a 220 outlet (probably a NEMA 14-50). So even in deep winter we expect range to be fine with a 30kw battery. We rejected the 24kw 2016s as too limited.


cwerdna wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:20 am
+1 on what Leftie said.

Why a Leaf from so far away?
We have a few on our shortlist. The leading candidate was from Carvana, which would make the whole buying experience so easy. However, especially after you add Carvana's delivery fee, this one that we found in CO has far less miles, is slightly cheaper, and looks like it likely has better battery health. The Carvana one also has a few dings and blemishes, and I had a mediocre experience with my own Carvana purchase experience. Given all that, it seems like a distance sale may be worth it...if we can find a way over all the obvious hurdles.

The dealership has a vested interest in selling the car so I don't trust anything they say about subjective metrics, like paint quality or interior condition. I suggested to Maria that maybe a fellow Leaf enthusiast in the area could help. I bought my Camaro and my Tesla from a distance, and in both cases I had fellow community members help by checking the prospective cars out. And I've done the same for a few Pittsburgh cars. I figured it was worth a shot in this case as well. :)


goldbrick wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:03 am
I don't see anything on the local CL in Loveland, FWIW, although not all dealers advertise there of course.
We found it on Autotrader, and the person I spoke with Friday said that it was still available. The same car was not on Cars.com, so maybe this dealership doesn't advertise them real well. It's possible they sold it over the weekend; we're hoping it's still available Monday so we can move on it quickly.

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Re: Could someone in the Loveland, CO area check out a car for me?

Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:55 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:05 am
Not to say that the above is one, but lately I've rejected a few posts that were copy & pastes of other posts, by spammers. The OP half-raises a red flag by not including anything Leaf or even EV specific.
Yep. Earlier, I did some searching and it didn't seem like copy paste.

I suggest we stop responding until we get more info from the OP.

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Re: Could someone in the Loveland, CO area check out a car for me?

Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:33 pm

I apologize, I do have some more information about this car. It is a used 2017 Nissan Leaf S, being sold at the MINI of Loveland dealership. If I purchase this car, I am planning on getting a flatbed to transport the car to my location. I stumbled across this car in my search for a Leaf, and the existing mileage, price, and condition of this car is what made me interested in possibly purchasing it, and I was hoping someone could look at it for me before I go through with purchasing it. My commute for school is about 60 some miles total, and I know a 2017 Leaf of good condition has about a 100 mile range. I would just like to get someone with good knowledge about this specific type of car to take a look and inform me of the general condition before I take the next steps.
cwerdna wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:55 am
LeftieBiker wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:05 am
Not to say that the above is one, but lately I've rejected a few posts that were copy & pastes of other posts, by spammers. The OP half-raises a red flag by not including anything Leaf or even EV specific.
Yep. Earlier, I did some searching and it didn't seem like copy paste.

I suggest we stop responding until we get more info from the OP.

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Re: Could someone in the Loveland, CO area check out a car for me?

Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:25 pm

Sorry for the delay in approving your posts. I sleep days and there apparently wasn't another Moderator available today.

Thanks for the info on the situation and the car. One thing that you need to clearly understand (you may now as I think the guide mentions it) is that the S version of the Leaf will get substantially less range in milder Winter temps - say down to about 25F - than the SV and SL, because it lacks a heat pump and has only a resistance heater. Interestingly enough, in colder weather it should go just as far, because below about 15F they are are getting virtually all of their heat from the same kind of resistance heater. So in Pennsylvania Winters an S would get less range most of the time the heater is used. How much less? Assume an overall average Winter range of about 70% of the Summer range for an SV or SL, and about 50% of the Summer range for an S. That is a very rough estimate and you can improve it by preheating the car at home (or at school) while plugged in to 240 volts, and then setting the heat to a low setting while driving.
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