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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering Year 6 - Santa Ana - 26 Sep 2015

Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:48 pm

tbleakne wrote:I would be interested in observations about the Bolt concept car from folks who also attended the Exposition Park NDEW event on Sunday.
I have read speculation that the Bolt has a 50 kWh battery, probably packaged as a slab under the floor. It may have a tweak to the battery chemistry relative to the Volt, trading power density for increased energy density. As a concept car, not pre-production, you probably were not allowed very close to the car. I also read that they may only make about 30K or so cars because that is the limit of what LG can supply in batteries.

Comments from Boomer23, 91040, others ?
I haven't heard the speculations that you mention about the batteries for the Bolt, but we could do some math to arrive at the probable kWh capacity. The car is about the size and frontal area of the BMW i3, but likely heavier since it will probably lack the carbon fiber structures used in the i3. Figure about 3200 pounds?

If the i3 BEV gets about 85 miles per charge on 19 useable kWh, I see 50 kWh (gross) as being in the right range for 200 real world miles. It remains to be seen whether the 200 miles will be real world or pie-in-the-sky.

I find the Bolt a very good looking small EV, and many seem to agree. It looks like trunk space behind the rear seats is smaller than most small EVs, and I think that GM will live to regret the Bolt name due to confusion with the Volt.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering Year 6 - Santa Ana - 26 Sep 2015

Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:15 am

Good work as usual Boomer (Phil): On the Tesla S, one can just
see the triangular "badge/light" in front of the driver door.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering Year 6 - Santa Ana - 26 Sep 2015

Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:24 am

91040 wrote:Bolt is a couple of feet shorter than the Leaf, about the same width...
Same width? The Bolt sure looks narrower from the photos, at least where it pinches in above the beltline.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering Year 6 - Santa Ana - 26 Sep 2015

Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:17 am

Our next Gathering is this coming Saturday, September 26th, in Santa Ana,
at the Hometown Buffet on 17th Street, just 2 blocks East of I-5.

HTB opens at 8 AM for breakfast, you are welcome to join us.
Some of us are likely to still be there at 11 or even noon.
The lunch menu food usually appears between 10:30 and 11.

We expect LEAFs and Teslas, likely a BMW i3, and possibly a Coda.

There should be good stories of the NDEW happenings, and hopefully
some reports about the 2015 BC2BC EV Rally-Loop 3000 mile event.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering Year 6 - Santa Ana - 26 Sep 2015

Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:47 am

Only 21 hours and 13 minutes until our next Gathering.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering Year 6 - Santa Ana - 26 Sep 2015

Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:29 am

We had a very nice Gathering, with about 12 to 14 warm bodies,
and at least 4 Teslas, 2 LEAFs, 2 Rav4EVs, and a BMW i3, but
no Coda this time.

Phil brought some NDEW goodies, Thanks!!!
Our waitress got the yellow arm band, and
a nice, smart preteen girl sitting nearby got
the blue band, with delight for Clean Air.

Insight to humanoids (not always true in every case):
How can you tell when a politician / man is lying?
When their / his lips are moving!

Oh well, we had a good time, with solar panels, wiring
and copper/aluminum connections, and mini-split heating
and cooling systems being just a few of the topics.

Thanks all, for attending.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering Year 6 - Cerritos - 10 Oct 2015

Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:43 am

For those who wish to plan ahead, Gatherings every 2 weeks
until the end of 2015, then a 3-week gap to get past the holidays
and into the new year.

If somebody wants to host an extra event or potluck
perhaps for the holidays or new-year, please feel free
to suggest a date and time.

In this thread's first post, you can find our tentative schedule:

------ 65th month Gatherings ------ 
Gathering #65a: 9 Jan 2016 at the HTB in Cerritos for breakfast.
Gathering #65b: 23 Jan 2016 at the HTB on 17th in Santa Ana for breakfast. 

------ 64th month Gatherings ------ 
Gathering #64a: 5 Dec 2015 at the HTB in Cerritos for breakfast.
Gathering #64b: 19 Dec 2015 at the HTB on 17th in Santa Ana for breakfast. 

------ 63rd month Gatherings ------ 
Gathering #63a: 7 Nov 2015 at the HTB in Cerritos for breakfast.
Gathering #63b: 21 Nov 2015 at the HTB on 17th in Santa Ana for breakfast. 

------ 62nd month Gatherings ------ 
Gathering #62a: 10 Oct 2015 at the HTB in Cerritos for breakfast.
Gathering #62b: 24 Oct 2015 at the HTB on 17th in Santa Ana for breakfast. 

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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering Year 6 - Cerritos - 10 Oct 2015

Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:37 am

One day and 23 minutes until our next Gathering, in Cerritos
at the Hometown Buffet 2 blocks East of 605, just North of
South Street, which is the first exit from 605 South of the
91/605 interchange. Breakfast starts at 8 AM. CU there.
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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering Year 6 - Cerritos - 10 Oct 2015

Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:40 pm

Pretty cool video of long line of pure EV cars driving up a beautiful mountain in Norway, with many professional drone shots. It appears a Tesla Roadster is given the honor of leading the procession, followed immediately by a BMW i3. Numerous Tesla Model Ss, a few LEAFs, and a number of a very small EV model.

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Re: SoCal LEAF & EV Gathering Year 6 - Cerritos - 10 Oct 2015

Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:51 pm

Hi gang.

I missed seeing you all this morning in Cerritos. Looking forward to next Saturday before the Solar Decathlon in Irvine.

Speaking of the Decathlon, I did a quick visit last Thursday on opening day for the public viewing. I have some comments and thoughts. Please head over to the Solar Decathlon thread for my comments.

As for today's adventure, the BMW had to be towed (flat bedded) to the dealer for diagnosis of a drivetrain malfunction. It turned out that the circuit breaker on my EVSE tripped during overnight charging. I assume that something in the car's charging system caused it to trip the breaker. One guy online had a similar problem and he said that the 12 v battery was involved. I won't know the diagnosis until early next week, if then. (This other guy said that his dealer had his car for 2 weeks, with lots of discussion with the engineers in Germany.)

Contrary to possible misunderstanding, this is only the second time that the car has been in the shop, and the first time it has been undriveable. The first time it was in the shop was when the car was only a week old and it threw an airbag/seatbelt fault. The dealer had the car for a week while they waited for a wiring harness from Germany. During that same visit, I had to insist that the dealer update the firmware.

I did have a recurrence of the airbag fault about a month ago, but I ignored it up until I was forced to take it in today. So they'll be working on both the drivetrain and airbag faults during this visit.
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