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Re: Update on CalTrans District 9 (Sierra Nevada East Side) DC Fast Charger Program

Mon May 18, 2020 2:36 pm

danrjones wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 3:41 pm
Paul, good news:

The road is open to the top gate. The forests service has it gated at that final corner about a half mile walk before the campgrounds and the the lower parking lots. They do that often at the beginning of the season when inyo roads has the road ready but the forest service is not ready. This year, however, it is possible the forests service will not open the gate. At least for now I would expect an extra walk but for trail peak its not a big issue. Campgrounds may remained closed all season, TBD. Langley though on very tired feet that extra walk from the top parking lot is not fun at the end. Beautiful up there. Did a short loop around the main meadow, up Trail Pass and back down Mulkey pass. Just a short day hike and back home. Snow still on north slopes but we were able to negotiate. Couple more weeks and Trail peak will be melted out. Langley still has a lot.

Bad news: No updates at all on either Coso site nor Brady's. Nothing has been done. Brady's is waiting on prep work I'm sure, but the Coso sites (EA for sure) is almost certainly waiting on SCE. One would almost start to think SCE has some grievance against charging stations...
Great report Dan. Did you mean Trail Pass to Cottonwood Pass back to the Meadow? That's the loop I'd like to do with a jaunt up Trail Peak.

Saw a report on PlugShare that CP at Denny's in Tehachapi appears ready but not power yet.

I wonder if CP, EA, and EV Connect will now use Covid as an excuse for not coming on line.

BTW. We started with a Leaf too. We drove it everywhere we could get it too--even Ridgecrest. ;)

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Re: Update on CalTrans District 9 (Sierra Nevada East Side) DC Fast Charger Program

Mon May 18, 2020 5:42 pm

Paul

Actually we did Trail pass to Mulkey pass. Mulkey pass is about a mile SE of trail pass, the opposite way along the PCT. A shorter loop than Trail to Cottonwood pass. Just checking out the snow and a short hike.

Getting to ridgecrest in a 40 Kwh leaf with the current infrastructure is doable. But getting up into the high Sierra and back is not, at least not for me. The two charger sets at Coso will really help. But some in lone pine, independence and big pine would be nice as well. I keep hoping Shell will put in their own brand at their locations like in Europe.

Be the way, how odd would it be if inyokern comes on before Coso?
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Re: Update on CalTrans District 9 (Sierra Nevada East Side) DC Fast Charger Program

Mon May 18, 2020 9:31 pm

Dan, thanks for the reply. For some reason I was thinking you had a Bolt, like Paul, hence the question. Looks like the round trip would be about 170 miles or so, plus altitude gain/loss which is definitely beyond a 40kWh Leaf.
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Re: Update on CalTrans District 9 (Sierra Nevada East Side) DC Fast Charger Program

Tue May 19, 2020 10:03 am

As long are you are not an 80+ MPH driver, a Leaf Plus would do 170 miles year round in the bay area for many years. A Kona or new Bolt would give you an extra 10% range though.
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Re: Update on CalTrans District 9 (Sierra Nevada East Side) DC Fast Charger Program

Tue May 19, 2020 12:01 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 10:03 am
As long are you are not an 80+ MPH driver, a Leaf Plus would do 170 miles year round in the bay area for many years. A Kona or new Bolt would give you an extra 10% range though.
You are missing the fact it goes from 2200 feet to 10,000 feet.

According to ABRP the plus leaves my house with 100% and arrives up there at 24%. Without a charger in lone pine or maybe Coso, you will not make it back per ABRP.. Not something I would try anyway. That's why we need more chargers along the east side.
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Re: Update on CalTrans District 9 (Sierra Nevada East Side) DC Fast Charger Program

Tue May 19, 2020 12:05 pm

GRA wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 9:31 pm
Dan, thanks for the reply. For some reason I was thinking you had a Bolt, like Paul, hence the question. Looks like the round trip would be about 170 miles or so, plus altitude gain/loss which is definitely beyond a 40kWh Leaf.
No problem. I plan to look at the Bolt next year when I start looking. Hopefully the 2022 will be out with the interior refresh by then. I actually think the Bolt looks good, but my wife does not. YMMV. But by then I'm hoping the Bolt EUV will be out plus updates to the Kia and Hyundai lineups. I'll evaluate based on what is available and prices at that time, so who knows.

My current Leaf though does what is was intended for quite well as my work and daily driver.
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Re: Update on CalTrans District 9 (Sierra Nevada East Side) DC Fast Charger Program

Tue May 19, 2020 3:46 pm

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Mon May 18, 2020 5:42 pm
Paul

Actually we did Trail pass to Mulkey pass. Mulkey pass is about a mile SE of trail pass, the opposite way along the PCT. A shorter loop than Trail to Cottonwood pass. Just checking out the snow and a short hike.

Getting to ridgecrest in a 40 Kwh leaf with the current infrastructure is doable. But getting up into the high Sierra and back is not, at least not for me. The two charger sets at Coso will really help. But some in lone pine, independence and big pine would be nice as well. I keep hoping Shell will put in their own brand at their locations like in Europe.

Be the way, how odd would it be if inyokern comes on before Coso?
Thanks Dan. Chomping at the bit here to get out and into the mountains. We did our annual windmill-wildflower walk last Saturday in Tehachapi on the PCT. Officially cancelled, five of us did it--and it was the most spectacular wildflower display we've seen in 30 years--maybe ever. Drove the Bolt from Bako and returned with 50.5% charge. ;) Great 6.5 mile hike--and plenty far enough. We were tired puppies when we got down.

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Re: Update on CalTrans District 9 (Sierra Nevada East Side) DC Fast Charger Program

Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:17 pm

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Tue May 19, 2020 3:46 pm


Thanks Dan. Chomping at the bit here to get out and into the mountains. We did our annual windmill-wildflower walk last Saturday in Tehachapi on the PCT. Officially cancelled, five of us did it--and it was the most spectacular wildflower display we've seen in 30 years--maybe ever. Drove the Bolt from Bako and returned with 50.5% charge. ;) Great 6.5 mile hike--and plenty far enough. We were tired puppies when we got down.

Paul

I was able to get an update. I re-sent my email to the CA POC and he responded, so maybe he just missed my email last time. It happens.
Was hoping for more info on why a lot of sites are waiting for transformers but he did not know.

See his response:

Good afternoon,



Here are quick updates on ChargePoint sites in your area:

Victorville Motel 6 & 154 Diner: activated and publicly available (4/27)

Yermo Eddie’s World: activated and publicly available (5/14)

Barstow Loves Travel Stop: energized and undergoing final testing

Tehachapi Denny’s: awaiting SCE for utility work

Mojave Denny’s: in progress to re-submit permit package

Inyokern Brady’s Mobil: awaiting permit release, anticipate to start construction in mid-June.



On your question about SCE, all I can say is that I really don’t know what the situation is. As you can see, some sites in the area have been activated and had SCE complete work, while others are still in the “queue”. I have heard from our multiple grant recipients that all the IOUs were giving EV charger installations a lower priority amid the pandemic. Some will not do initial site walks right now and they have delayed energization dates. With many shelter in places being lifted, the hope is that things can get back to normal and back on track.



The only other item I can think of, but truly do not know how it plays is that ChargePoint originally had a site located at the Chevron in Kramer Junction. SCE told ChargePoint after multiple months of design work on the site that the nearby SCE substation (literally about 500ft away) was at max capacity and that it could not support new DCFC power requests. SCE noted they would need to, and plan to, expand that substation to support growth. They also said that this is likely a multi-year expansion. Now I don’t know if that would impact other chargers along 395 or not (Inyokern, Coso Junction, etc). As I mentioned, sites have been activated in Barstow (ChargePoint and EA) and in Mojave (EA), but maybe they are attached to other substations.



I am sorry I could not provide more useful information. ChargePoint hopes to have their chargers done this year, but the utility side plays a large role on that as you know and have seen.



Thank you,



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Re: Update on CalTrans District 9 (Sierra Nevada East Side) DC Fast Charger Program

Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:16 pm

Brian is the man--and always helpful.

Not good news, but it's about what we expected.

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Re: Update on CalTrans District 9 (Sierra Nevada East Side) DC Fast Charger Program

Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:17 pm

Work finally lifted a restriction keeping me in town so I am going to Friday - in a week - to get my Nissan Leaf Serviced in Palmdale. I will check out the Denny's in Mojave and I will TRY the new chargers in Palmdale near Target. I have to get nearly a full charge to get home, might as well be there.
Based on the email reply I am thinking nothing has been done yet if they are still working the permit at Mojave Denny's but I'll check anyway.

Tomorrow I'll do my weekly check at Inyokern. Saturday or Sunday I plan to go hiking again in Horseshoe area so I'll do a quick check of the two locations at Coso Junction.
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