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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:13 pm

They could still "license" the technology, improve upon it or take the concepts learned and come up with something even better... That technology would be awesome in a mass produced EV.
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:28 pm

mitch672 wrote:They could still "license" the technology, improve upon it or take the concepts learned and come up with something even better... That technology would be awesome in a mass produced EV.
Why would Nissan want to pay royalties to ACP on each EV they sell ?

Only reason an auto major takes something from others is for quick market launch. Like Nissan licensing Toyota's hybrid technology.
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:04 pm

evnow wrote:
mitch672 wrote:I hope that Nissan does not have a "NIH" attitude about this, this is superior technology, from a size/weight/cost viewpoint..
They will definitely not buy it. Nothing to do with NIH - it is a question of mass production & profits. Nissan and other auto majors would want to own the core technologies until the industry evolves to such an extent that all these become commodatized.

May be Nissan will buy it for low volume cars like an EV version of GTR. BTW, I'm not convinced that ACP has a technology that can't be easily matched or bettered by an auto major. Afterall, even Tesla now doesn't license anything from ACP.

They could buy it and the patents. the ACP system has been around for a long time and still unsurpassed today as a package by any major or small player. Alan built this in his garage and the best Nissan can do since the 90's is a 3.3 kw charger and a big giant 80kw motor? Auto makers rely on third parties to make their products better. Head units, AMG, etc. Auto makers operate on cost and not cutting edge tech usually. Most sub their parts out. Give it time and they will figure it out, as usual.

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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:16 pm

indyflick wrote:Nissan has already provided some of the data. The LEAF is basically a platform for five derivative vehicles presently in development. They are announcing a van soon. There's also a crossover SUV and a sedan. There's speculation of a 2 seat roadster to compete with Tesla, at 1/3 the price.
Nissan has already announced the van. It will debut at the Hannover, Germany International Motor Show next week.

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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:41 pm

I predict a 240V cigarette lighter.

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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:53 pm

evnow wrote:
mitch672 wrote:They could still "license" the technology, improve upon it or take the concepts learned and come up with something even better... That technology would be awesome in a mass produced EV.
Why would Nissan want to pay royalties to ACP on each EV they sell ?

Only reason an auto major takes something from others is for quick market launch. Like Nissan licensing Toyota's hybrid technology.
Why indeed, to make the 2nd generation Leaf the best performing, compatible with upcoming V2G technology, mass produced EV in history. I'm sure ACP and Nissan could work out a deal, if the two of them wanted to. With Nissan's battery technology (ok, aemc's) and ACP's innovative integrated design, not much could touch it for a long time.
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:01 pm

Seems silly trying to predict what the features will be on Gen2 when we really don't have all the facts on Gen1...and some of us have ordered one already.
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:05 pm

palmermd wrote:Seems silly trying to predict what the features will be on Gen2 when we really don't have all the facts on Gen1...and some of us have ordered one already.
Well, by the time SOME of us can get a Gen1 Leaf, there maybe other EV's to choose from, that is all :)
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:59 pm

indyflick wrote: There's speculation of a 2 seat roadster to compete with Tesla, at 1/3 the price.
My plan is to lease the Leaf for 39 months, at which time this sports roadster will be available. Can't wait for a Tesla at 1/3 the price. I wonder if Lotus has agreed to 1/3 the price on the sexy body and great-handling frame. :lol:
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:43 pm

Boomer23 wrote:
indyflick wrote: There's speculation of a 2 seat roadster to compete with Tesla, at 1/3 the price.
My plan is to lease the Leaf for 39 months, at which time this sports roadster will be available. Can't wait for a Tesla at 1/3 the price. I wonder if Lotus has agreed to 1/3 the price on the sexy body and great-handling frame. :lol:
Excellent. My plan is that in 10 yrs, my kids will start driving the Leaf. With a limited range of ~70 mi. by that time, it will be perfect for a couple of teenagers. What better than a built-in mileage limit to keep them close (enough) to home! ;)
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