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jhm614
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:54 am

Okay, I'll will play:

1) The Gen 2 leaf will be available in January 2014 (as the first round of Leases begin to expire)
2) The G2L will have a redesigned body with a slightly lower (Cd 0.27)
3) The batteries will have 30% larger range, a 20% less weight and slightly longer life span
4) The combo of better aero, better batteries, reduced weight will give the Gen 2 a 135 mile range with 80-85% capacity left after 10 years
5) 6.6 kW charger will be standard
6) L3 charging will be standard
7) $3,500 base model price drop (unless the Fed credit is still available)
2011 Brilliant Silver SL - 110,000 gasoline free miles so far.
4BL: 06/29/13 @ 27 months, 43,520 miles, 42.56 Ahr. New 12 bar battery: 09/09/13
4BLx2:12/31/16 @ 69 months, 99,475 miles, 42.99 Ahr.

jstack6
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:58 pm

Carlos Ghosn the head of Nissan has said they have a 250 mile range battery they are testing. A few others like BMW, FORD , VW and of course Tesla also have said they can make a 200+ mile EV for mid $30's. We will see who can and who really make one.
I'm ready to order the Tesla GEN III since Tesla has 151 Super Chargers in the USA and will have over 300 by 2016. All FREE for life and Renewable powered. What else could you ask for?


http://www.hybridcars.com/ceo-ghosn-nis ... v-battery/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

KJD
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:09 pm

jstack6 wrote:Carlos Ghosn the head of Nissan has said they have a 250 mile range battery they are testing. A few others like BMW, FORD , VW and of course Tesla also have said they can make a 200+ mile EV for mid $30's. We will see who can and who really make one.
I'm ready to order the Tesla GEN III since Tesla has 151 Super Chargers in the USA and will have over 300 by 2016. All FREE for life and Renewable powered. What else could you ask for?
http://www.hybridcars.com/ceo-ghosn-nis ... v-battery/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I seriously doubt the next gen LEAF will go 250 miles on a charge. However if they can make an EV do 150 miles on a cold January day, that would be impressive.
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epirali
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:15 pm

jstack6 wrote:Carlos Ghosn the head of Nissan has said they have a 250 mile range battery they are testing. A few others like BMW, FORD , VW and of course Tesla also have said they can make a 200+ mile EV for mid $30's. We will see who can and who really make one.
I'm ready to order the Tesla GEN III since Tesla has 151 Super Chargers in the USA and will have over 300 by 2016. All FREE for life and Renewable powered. What else could you ask for?


http://www.hybridcars.com/ceo-ghosn-nis ... v-battery/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Minor correction: supercharger is only free on the higher capacity models otherwise it is a paid option (I think $3-4k at tine of purchase).

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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:19 am

epirali wrote:
jstack6 wrote:Carlos Ghosn the head of Nissan has said they have a 250 mile range battery they are testing. A few others like BMW, FORD , VW and of course Tesla also have said they can make a 200+ mile EV for mid $30's. We will see who can and who really make one.
I'm ready to order the Tesla GEN III since Tesla has 151 Super Chargers in the USA and will have over 300 by 2016. All FREE for life and Renewable powered. What else could you ask for?


http://www.hybridcars.com/ceo-ghosn-nis ... v-battery/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Minor correction: supercharger is only free on the higher capacity models otherwise it is a paid option (I think $3-4k at tine of purchase).
I think what he meant is that there is no per-use charge for supercharging. If you have it, you can charge for free for life.
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:15 am

epirali wrote:
jstack6 wrote:Carlos Ghosn the head of Nissan has said they have a 250 mile range battery they are testing. A few others like BMW, FORD , VW and of course Tesla also have said they can make a 200+ mile EV for mid $30's. We will see who can and who really make one.
I'm ready to order the Tesla GEN III since Tesla has 151 Super Chargers in the USA and will have over 300 by 2016. All FREE for life and Renewable powered. What else could you ask for?


http://www.hybridcars.com/ceo-ghosn-nis ... v-battery/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Minor correction: supercharger is only free on the higher capacity models otherwise it is a paid option (I think $3-4k at tine of purchase).
Cost of supercharger access for 60KWh version is $2K.

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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:58 am

Rebel44 wrote: Cost of supercharger access for 60KWh version is $2K.
hmmmmm.
You seem to be leaving out one small detail. First you have to buy the car to add the $2,000. option on to it.
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/design" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
60kwh Base Model S________69,900
Super Charger Enabled______2,000
Destination Fees____________1,170

As for ordering a Model 3 anytime soon, well forget that. The Model X has been delayed so many times, I am embarrassed to say that I am a Tesla stock holder. As you can see the real price is more than 2k.

Next Gen LEAF does need faster charging and a bigger battery to start, the real question is this, how much are you willing to pay for it?
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bigrob90
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:53 am

KJD wrote:
Rebel44 wrote: Cost of supercharger access for 60KWh version is $2K.
hmmmmm.
You seem to be leaving out one small detail. First you have to buy the car to add the $2,000. option on to it.
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/design" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
60kwh Base Model S________69,900
Super Charger Enabled______2,000
Destination Fees____________1,170

As for ordering a Model 3 anytime soon, well forget that. The Model X has been delayed so many times, I am embarrassed to say that I am a Tesla stock holder. As you can see the real price is more than 2k.

Next Gen LEAF does need faster charging and a bigger battery to start, the real question is this, how much are you willing to pay for it?
The bigger battery is the bigger deal, assuming we are still talking AC charging. There will need to be 100kw DC charging with the bigger batteries, though. But if Nissan makes a 60kwh battery and keeps the 6.6kw charger, I don't think that would be a big deal. If you got a 32A EVSE, you'd be still be able to charge to 100 overnight. And the need for higher output L2 EVSEs would still be pretty limited. If Nissan is able to produce a 250 mile range, price-competitive (with other midsized vehicles, after incentives) EV, then the main issue most people are going to have with it will be its unsuitability for long road trips. And that's only going to be solved with more reliable DC charging access.
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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:01 am

If I had a $1 for every high capacity battery in "testing". Carlos also has said many things that never materialized. It's fully because this works and some many people are under the impression that there will be a sub $35K long range LEAF available for purchase in the next two years, some even think the next year.

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Re: next gen Leaf predictions?

Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:11 am

EVDRIVER wrote:If I had a $1 for every high capacity battery in "testing". Carlos also has said many things that never materialized. It's fully because this works and some many people are under the impression that there will be a sub $35K long range LEAF available for purchase in the next two years, some even think the next year.
From a variety of sources the LG next gen batteries are expected at the end of this year. Maybe a little early or significantly late. I expect Nissan's next gen's batteries to arrive in the same time frame. Nissan plug-in hybrid qashqai is expected later this year. One of these might be the first with next gen battery.
http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/nissan- ... ed/1211420" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nissan Hi-Cross AWD Plug-In Hybrid EV Concept video from 2012:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S07QQfu1rwc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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