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Re: New Nissan LEAF Survey

Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:53 pm

I've been thinking about the extra range and how it would affect DCFC availability.

My take is that a lot of us would charge up overnight as we do now, but for a longer period on our home L2's. For someone like me, the home electric bill would be a little higher but I would be able to skip 4 charging sessions between Vancouver and Bellingham, Wa. That would not only save time but would fit in a little better with my natural break and eating patterns. I think the DCFC charging itself would be more efficient as many more kilowatts would be onboard before the near capacity charging slowdown begins.

It is very possible that quick chargers wouldn't be so backed up due to range anxiety issues. Most people would have plenty of mileage to spare every day and would rather charge overnight at home than visit a public charger.
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Re: New Nissan LEAF Survey

Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:14 am

I finally find a free moment and pull together the information to intelligently respond to this survey (looking back at my intelligent response to the RegGuheert MNL survey from 24Nov2013), and Nissan as is their usual incompetence, has already closed the survey.
If you can't provide two weeks to respond to the survey, then you really don't give a DAMN about the results.
Just a quick note to Mr. Toby Perry, Nissan's new Director of Electric Vehicle (EV) Sales and Marketing in the US: If you can't do better than this, then you may soon be added to list of Nissan personnel that have been fired or removed from the Nissan LEAF effort, along with several others that unfortunately haven't been fired yet but should be fired soon.
Nissan is apparently led by a bunch of moronic idiots :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

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Re: New Nissan LEAF Survey

Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:08 am

TimLee wrote:Nissan is apparently led by a bunch of moronic idiots :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
And yet, they make the best selling BEV in the world.
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Re: New Nissan LEAF Survey

Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:53 am

TimLee wrote:If you can't provide two weeks to respond to the survey, then you really don't give a DAMN about the results.
I disagree.. I suspect most Leaf owners, who are known to be technologically savvy, will have answered the survey within a few days. Second of all, we have no idea how quickly they needed the survey results. It is possible they were planning to make design changes immediately.
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Re: New Nissan LEAF Survey

Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:01 am

Yes I would like to see the results of that survey also.

If past history is any indication of the future, not going to hold my breath waiting on that one.
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Re: New Nissan LEAF Survey

Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:59 am

Not hard when you are pretty much the only game in town... Now, if they still want to be in that position five years or more down the road from now, well, we shall see...
Never did receive a survey, by the way...
jhm614 wrote:
TimLee wrote:Nissan is apparently led by a bunch of moronic idiots :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
And yet, they make the best selling BEV in the world.
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Re: New Nissan LEAF Survey

Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:31 pm

adric22 wrote:
TimLee wrote:If you can't provide two weeks to respond to the survey, then you really don't give a DAMN about the results.
I disagree.. I suspect most Leaf owners, who are known to be technologically savvy, will have answered the survey within a few days. Second of all, we have no idea how quickly they needed the survey results. It is possible they were planning to make design changes immediately.
David Murray, it sure sounds like you're passive aggressively calling me "non-technologically savvy", but maybe that wasn't your intent :( :? :?: .
And secondly "technologically savvy" has no correlation with response to Nissan surveys, participation on MNL, or InsideEVs, or many other things.
I think all Nissan was looking for was a marketing type gut response to their survey, not an intelligent thoughtful response.

Yes, they may have needed the response quickly. But if they had their act together, they would have asked for the survey response at least 4 to 6 weeks earlier. Or ideally around the time that the LEAF Advisory Board member posted his survey.

Mostly adric22 (David Murray) your input on MNL has been constructive and useful. But I don't feel your current response met your usual standards.
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Re: New Nissan LEAF Survey

Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:32 pm

TomT wrote:Never did receive a survey, by the way...
Sorry TomT. At least you got an invite to the Phoenix meeting :? :D :? :D

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Re: New Nissan LEAF Survey

Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:11 pm

TimLee wrote:Your current response unfortunately did not meet your usual standards.
Whoa there Tim, I'm sure adric22 meant no personal insult there. Take a deep breath and relax...

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Re: New Nissan LEAF Survey

Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:27 pm

drees wrote:
TimLee wrote:Your current response unfortunately did not meet your usual standards.
Whoa there Tim, I'm sure adric22 meant no personal insult there. Take a deep breath and relax...
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