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135 mile range LEAF? Where did this come from?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:15 am

http://www.thestreet.com/story/12554189 ... -leaf.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is this substantiated in any way? $4k price increase seems like a detail not just pulled from thin air.
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Re: 135 mile range LEAF? Where did this come from?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:20 am

All speculation.
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Re: 135 mile range LEAF? Where did this come from?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:30 am

What an unfounded opinion piece.

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Re: 135 mile range LEAF? Where did this come from?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:08 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBEb9OZ-kg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Skip to the 7:00 mark.

I agree the article is total speculation. At the same time I think we're witnessing the "Tesla effect".
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Re: 135 mile range LEAF? Where did this come from?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:19 am

I can tell you that the extra 50 miles makes for a huge improvement. Nissan is a little late to market for me. And I am not sure I would trust the battery longevity again until there are some five year 75k mile reports on how the range holds up.

I wonder if this improvement is an answer to the Honda & Toyota hydrogen vehicles to be out next year.

Good luck Nissan. Sooner the better for the update.
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Re: 135 mile range LEAF? Where did this come from?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:56 am

So start with a helping of wishful thinking, add 50 miles of range, fix the styling and the battery degradation, and price it at $33k. That could be a real game changer, and a significant problem for Tesla's model E plans.
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Jim Cramer article on The Street.com

Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:57 am

Cramer claims that Nissan is highly likely to introduce a 135-150 mile Nissan Leaf by September-Octoer 2014. He does post some legitimate reasons for it, and can cite some possible Nissan interest in the increased battery size, as it is critical to Nissan' EV plans. If this is true, I think most people on this forum would be in favor of paying an addtional $5K (his suggested price)over the current price to get such a battery.

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Re: 135 mile range LEAF? Where did this come from?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:28 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:So start with a helping of wishful thinking, add 50 miles of range, fix the styling and the battery degradation, and price it at $33k. That could be a real game changer, and a significant problem for Tesla's model E plans.
Not if the Model E will be Supercharger capable, as Musk has suggested (how they will keep the smaller battery from frying on a Supercharge is unclear to me).

Being able to use the Supercharger network means that many people, including me, would be able to go with no ICE car as a backup. Chademo is fine for doubling the range of a LEAF but a thousand mile trip is downright easy on the Tesla Supercharger network.
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Re: 135 mile range LEAF? Where did this come from?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:38 am

dgpcolorado wrote:how they will keep the smaller battery from frying on a Supercharge is unclear to me.
Same method that is used on Model S. Does not the car control the charge rate same as LEAF on L3?
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Re: 135 mile range LEAF? Where did this come from?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:41 am

dgpcolorado wrote:
LTLFTcomposite wrote:So start with a helping of wishful thinking, add 50 miles of range, fix the styling and the battery degradation, and price it at $33k. That could be a real game changer, and a significant problem for Tesla's model E plans.
Not if the Model E will be Supercharger capable, as Musk has suggested (how they will keep the smaller battery from frying on a Supercharge is unclear to me).

Being able to use the Supercharger network means that many people, including me, would be able to go with no ICE car as a backup. Chademo is fine for doubling the range of a LEAF but a thousand mile trip is downright easy on the Tesla Supercharger network.

A few lines of software code on that model, they can charge it at any exact rate they please, the supercharger output is irrelevant.

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