Well, those worst conditions are Minnesota on the freeway in a blizzard. Everywhere I need to be during the week is under 10 miles one way from my house and the lowest we saw last winter was 17 for about an hour one night. And these wouldn't be NEVs. Super low range, maybe, but with around-view monitor and leather? Doesn't seem too shabby to me, if the price is right.GRA wrote: 40 miles under ideal conditions can mean well under 20 in worst case conditions. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see a large market for cars whose utility is even more limited by range than the new ones are, no matter their price. Is there really a significant market for what are essentially NHTSA standards-compatible NEVs? I doubt it. If Nissan could just 'pop new batteries in them' and make a decent return, they could also provide a price for those same new batteries to their current customers that wouldn't give them apoplexy.