Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:41 am
Yes, we can all agree that Nissan should have done an extensive evaluation on the early Leaf's battery chemistrySageBrush wrote:So far, no misfortune at all -- quite the contrary. We love our LEAF and I remain reasonably confident that I will not have future regrets.lorenfb wrote: Really surprised you bought a used Leaf, especially after joining this forum and doing "due diligence" prior to your
purchase, e.g. even utilizing LeafSpy. Implicit in your posts is that you view your Leaf, i.e. > 3yrs old, purchased
for less than $8K, with near new battery capacity (59 - 61 Ahrs), and no necessary repairs, as a marginal purchase.
Sorry for your naivety and misfortune.
I have not been paraphrasing my ownership when I criticize LEAF battery technology and the corporation. However, consider the particulars of my positive experience:
I learned enough to buy an usually healthy battery -- without doubt an outlier in both battery and owner.
I baby the car
It has never lived in a warm, let alone hot, environment
We use it for in-town errands
I paid $6,300 before shipping and taxes, after tax credit
I came to the table realizing that Nissan Corporate would likely not support me in the future
I will not suffer financial hardship if the car goes to the junk-yard today
In short, I recognize that the car is hobbled but it performs admirably the little I ask of it for a great price. But my anecdote is so far away from average or even 2 SD that it is irrelevant to the discussion. I frame my comments thinking of the group that bought the car for $25-$30k for daily duties up to 75 miles per charge.
And LEAF the car aside, Nissan Corporate stinks in their EV customer support
before production and have been more acqueiscent to owners' range degradation issues. Other than the Leaf's
battery, i.e. notwithstanding any product with a battery, most owners would agree that the Leaf's reliability
has been excellent.
You'll have many years of enjoyable service, given that your Leaf is in a better climate than my '13 now with 53K miles,
12 bars, and 51 Ahrs. Mine has received no special care; daily charge to 100%, 2-3 QCs per week - max 10 min,
battery temp never exceeds 35 deg C, and max discharge to 18 Ahrs.