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Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:10 am

I just checked and at least some VW group cars (here in Czechia) have option for heated windshield for around €400-500.

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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:28 am

No idea if this has been suggested (or better, requested), but more driver legroom, for goodness sake. There's little reason that they can't make the driver's seat go back a little more. I imagine that >99% of all miles driven are done with either no one or a 'small person' behind the driver, so why not allow that seat to go back two or three more inches?!
I think I just felt my paradigm shift.

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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:55 am

In the MB, for $600 you get a whole range package, incuding heated windshield.
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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:15 am

mbender wrote:No idea if this has been suggested (or better, requested), but more driver legroom, for goodness sake. There's little reason that they can't make the driver's seat go back a little more. I imagine that >99% of all miles driven are done with either no one or a 'small person' behind the driver, so why not allow that seat to go back two or three more inches?!
Yes! Actually, for me it would suffice just to add a telescoping steering column. I have my seat as far back as I can to accommodate my legs but feeling like I'm riding an ape-hanger since I have to stretch to reach the steering wheel. Adding to my list..

1) third-party apps on the info center - I think a lot of the features being asked for would easily be accommodated if Nissan would only allow these with access to canbus traffic (read only), GPS, and charge start AND stop control.
2) phone mic mute button on the steering wheel (seriously - having to take my eyes off the road to find it on the touch screen is safety hazard). Perhaps make it so a long press of the phone button on the steering wheel hangs up but a short press just mutes.
3) fully recessed rear headrests that do no obstruct vision.
4) Lose the tree
5) Telescoping steering wheel

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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:06 pm

mbender wrote:No idea if this has been suggested (or better, requested), but more driver legroom, for goodness sake. There's little reason that they can't make the driver's seat go back a little more. I imagine that >99% of all miles driven are done with either no one or a 'small person' behind the driver, so why not allow that seat to go back two or three more inches?!
One reason I can think of the positioning of the mounts of the seatbelt relative to your torso. If you are too far back, the seatbelt may be too far forward to be effective. It's the same reason why it's not recommended that a passenger (or driver for that matter) have their seat too far reclined when the car is in motion.

The best way to solve that issue is to use seats with seatbelt anchors and retractors built in, like some convertibles and pickup trucks (particularly the extended cab ones with the "suicide" rear doors) do. But that adds cost.
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:57 am

It may sound petty but one of the things I'd like to see is a GREEN Leaf.

I'm not a Leaf owner myself but if Nissan can get one with a 120 mile range I'd jump on it. GREEN would seal the deal.

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Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:28 pm

For me, EV is viable option only if:
EPA range is at least around 200 miles
Battery has TMS to keep battery at ideal temperatures

important, but not critical:
good set of active safety systems (automatic braking etc)
access to well developed network of fast (100+KW) chargers - so either Tesla superchargers or something similar.

Budget for my next car is around $50-60K.

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Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:38 am

evnow wrote:
donald wrote:If you are talking about 'environmental impacts' then give up on discussing having more range.

EVs have a lower lifetime CO2 emission because they 'only' have ~25kWh of battery. Double the emissions for producing a battery twice as large and you wipe out the lifetime CO2 savings compared with an equivalent ICE. If you have to replace a battery twice as large during its lifetime, then you've really destroyed the argument for EVs over ICE, on CO2 grounds.
Problem with this argument is the hidden assumption - battery twice as large takes double the emissions to make.

The idea is to advance the technology and get higher density batteries - not just have bigger batteries.
But in a larger context, the adoption rate of EVs is strongly dependent upon the available range. So the total CO2 saved depends on how the range vs. adoption curves interact.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:44 am

mdjones wrote:It may sound petty but one of the things I'd like to see is a GREEN Leaf.

I'm not a Leaf owner myself but if Nissan can get one with a 120 mile range I'd jump on it. GREEN would seal the deal.
+1 they need a nice green. I think maybe they avoid it as cliche.

I'm considering Plasti-Dip for my next (probably leased) LEAF. I did the wheels on my current one and it has held up great. Easily removable.

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I'm waiting for the reformulation that will make the product compliant with CA air quality laws.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:25 pm

Nubo wrote:
mdjones wrote:It may sound petty but one of the things I'd like to see is a GREEN Leaf.

I'm not a Leaf owner myself but if Nissan can get one with a 120 mile range I'd jump on it. GREEN would seal the deal.
+1 they need a nice green. I think maybe they avoid it as cliche.
FYI a member here did buy a green wrap for their LEAF (awesome picture). I agree though that Nissan should offer one factory-made.
I think I just felt my paradigm shift.

2012 SL (One of the colors): 2-year lease, 2012+,
2015 S w/QC (A different color): 3-year lease, 2014+,
2017 SV (Same color as 2015 S): 3-year lease, 2017+, lower monthly than either above(!)

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