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Re: Leaf 2 is going to be very nice looking : Nakamura

Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:18 pm

Nubo wrote: I'd keep the LEAF and offer an affordable 2-seat convertible EV roadster.
Don't know about the roadster (very small market) - but there is something to be said about keeping the current Leaf going (in terms of style). Not sure if there is economic viability to 2 Leaf styles.
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Re: Leaf 2 is going to be very nice looking : Nakamura

Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:47 pm

evnow wrote:
Nubo wrote: I'd keep the LEAF and offer an affordable 2-seat convertible EV roadster.
Don't know about the roadster (very small market) - but there is something to be said about keeping the current Leaf going (in terms of style). Not sure if there is economic viability to 2 Leaf styles.
I'm thinking along the lines of an EV equivalent of the Miata. Certainly a successful vehicle and while it may not have been their bread and butter, there is the issue of the halo effect. We ended up buying or leasing 5 Mazda vehicles and it all started with the Miata.

Of course, this only works if it's an unquestionably brilliant car.
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Re: Leaf 2 is going to be very nice looking : Nakamura

Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:55 pm

Two words: "Blade Glider." Since they don't seem to be building that after all, it would make more sense to offer a Nismo-type version of the Leaf here, and maybe also offer a crossover version of the Leaf, built with the same platform but with Prius-like cargo space. That would let them cover most of the market spectrum with just two cars, built on one platform, in three versions.
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Re: Leaf 2 is going to be very nice looking : Nakamura

Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:51 pm

They'll only attempt 2 or 3 versions of Leaf, if the first version proves very successful. Like Prius did (but Toyota took too long to offer other variations).

May be after a couple of years they may offer other versions.

Ofcourse one other version of "Leaf" they'll offer is Infiniti. That should be a sporty sedan and directly compete with Model 3.
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Re: Leaf 2 is going to be very nice looking : Nakamura

Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:35 pm

Assuming similar pricing, it likely would be an easy decision for me. Bring on the Tesla! Nissan has done little, too late, to earn my repeat business...
evnow wrote:Ofcourse one other version of "Leaf" they'll offer is Infiniti. That should be a sporty sedan and directly compete with Model 3.
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Re: Leaf 2 is going to be very nice looking : Nakamura

Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:54 pm

TomT wrote:Assuming similar pricing, it likely would be an easy decision for me. Bring on the Tesla! Nissan has done little, too late, to earn my repeat business...
I have followed your posts long enough to know you aren't happy with your Leaf, but my wife and I are 1-1/2 years into our 3 year lease on our 2013 Leaf and it has been a flawless car for us. It has spoiled us so much that we hate driving anything with an ICE, and quite frankly there isn't much we would change about it other than styling and alleged battery degradation (which we haven't experienced yet). As much as I respect Tesla, I suspect the Model III will cost a minimum of $8-10k more than the Leaf 2.0 (with supercharging added in). We can't wait for Leaf 2.0, and we fully expect it will be everything we love about our current Leaf and more.

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Re: Leaf 2 is going to be very nice looking : Nakamura

Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:58 pm

I'm very happy with the Leaf, aside from the battery degradation. It is the Nissan company that I am not happy with.
asimba2 wrote:I have followed your posts long enough to know you aren't happy with your Leaf
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Re: Leaf 2 is going to be very nice looking : Nakamura

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:26 pm

TomT wrote:Assuming similar pricing, it likely would be an easy decision for me. Bring on the Tesla! Nissan has done little, too late, to earn my repeat business...
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Re: Leaf 2 is going to be very nice looking : Nakamura

Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:03 am

TomT wrote:Assuming similar pricing, it likely would be an easy decision for me. Bring on the Tesla! Nissan has done little, too late, to earn my repeat business...
evnow wrote:Ofcourse one other version of "Leaf" they'll offer is Infiniti. That should be a sporty sedan and directly compete with Model 3.
To each his own. I can't discount any Gen 2 product especially when the first one was... THE first one. Unlike Tesla, Nissan had to make a lot of tough decisions. Tesla did not. If they miscalculated, they simply raised the price (Ask anyone who had a Roadster reserved...)

Nissan tried that. it did not work so they backtracked and that undoubtedly created more tough decisions. Have they made mistakes? yes. Have they fixed them? Actually I have to say the results are wonderful despite the somewhat peculiar path they took to said decisions.

Are they doing everything right? no but not even Tesla is perfect. So, will I discount a product that has not even been announced? Sorry, but not that stupid.
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Re: Leaf 2 is going to be very nice looking : Nakamura

Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:06 am

Yeah, it is high on my list too! I get to drive one for three days next week (the Plus) and I should have a much better feel about that after then...
ILETRIC wrote:Gettin' there too, most likely via leased Kia Soul for the next 3 years...
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