Predicting Range & Value of LEAF Gen 2

[DesertSprings]

I'm not too worried about battery degradation due to lack of active cooling, simply because I will be leasing again. I fully expect technology to continue to greatly improve, both in regards to battery cost and in regards to autonomous features, and expect after 3 years I will want the newer tech.

[DaveinOlyWA]

I'm not too worried about battery degradation due to lack of active cooling, simply because I will be leasing again. I fully expect technology to continue to greatly improve, both in regards to battery cost and in regards to autonomous features, and expect after 3 years I will want the newer tech.

As long as Nissan continues to provide the full tax benefit on leases, I will continue to lease as well. This essentially gives me a 3 year test drive and a baseline for the degradation I can expect if I buy.

[Dooglas]

As long as Nissan continues to provide the full tax benefit on leases, I will continue to lease as well. This essentially gives me a 3 year test drive and a baseline for the degradation I can expect if I buy.

Agree. I am on my second lease. I will buy this vehicle unless it develops problems or a better value appears in the next two years.

[LeftieBiker]

Leasing is my only option, because of my income and retired status.

[dblo]

Nissan has already shown a 60kWh pack that is very similar physical size to their current 24/30kWh packs.



Here's the 60kWh:



Here's the 24kWh pack (2013):

Thanks for the pictures. Looks to me physically the 24KWH and the 60 KWH batteries are very similar and that may allow old Leaf to upgrade to 60KWH?

David, 2011 SV. 92k miles, 5 bars left.

[GetOffYourGas]

Thanks for the pictures. Looks to me physically the 24KWH and the 60 KWH batteries are very similar and that may allow old Leaf to upgrade to 60KWH?

David, 2011 SV. 92k miles, 5 bars left.

Even if it was technically / physically possible, Nissan has given us zero reason to hope that they would offer such an upgrade. Or any upgrade for that matter.

[NavyCuda]

Nissan has already shown a 60kWh pack that is very similar physical size to their current 24/30kWh packs.



Here's the 60kWh:



Here's the 24kWh pack (2013):

Thanks for the pictures. Looks to me physically the 24KWH and the 60 KWH batteries are very similar and that may allow old Leaf to upgrade to 60KWH?

David, 2011 SV. 92k miles, 5 bars left.

Nissan is in business to sell cars, not battery packs.

It's in their best interest to convince you to buy the next Leaf instead of stringing gen one customers along in what will become an inferior car.

[ElectricEddy]

Any info on weight difference between 30 kWh and 60 kWh pack ?

[DaveinOlyWA]

Any info on weight difference between 30 kWh and 60 kWh pack ?

ummm....hmmm???... I kinda sorta think I knew at one time.... 80 lbs? 80 k's?

[ElectricEddy]

Any info on weight difference between 30 kWh and 60 kWh pack ?

ummm....hmmm???... I kinda sorta think I knew at one time.... 80 lbs? 80 k's?

The reported weight difference between 24 and 30 is 21Kg (46 lbs)

http://pushevs.com/2016/01/13/nissan-le ... vs-30-kwh/

Just referring to the 41% more range statement , it seems efficiency/discharge rate