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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:04 pm

OrientExpress wrote:The other noticeable change is the NVH on the Plus. At 60 mph on my "noisy test road" the Plus measures 62.8 dB. which is luxury car quiet.
What is NVH
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:15 pm

webeleafowners wrote:
OrientExpress wrote:The other noticeable change is the NVH on the Plus. At 60 mph on my "noisy test road" the Plus measures 62.8 dB. which is luxury car quiet.
What is NVH
Noise, Vibration and Harshness. The more high-end the car, the better it's expected to do re NVH. Think Yugo vs. Mercedes.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:30 pm

GRA wrote:
webeleafowners wrote:
OrientExpress wrote:The other noticeable change is the NVH on the Plus. At 60 mph on my "noisy test road" the Plus measures 62.8 dB. which is luxury car quiet.
What is NVH
Noise, Vibration and Harshness. The more high-end the car, the better it's expected to do re NVH. Think Yugo vs. Mercedes.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:56 am

OrientExpress wrote:For the third time, the actual weighed number is 4060 pounds.

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That's weird. https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/elec ... specs.html, if you select S Plus thru SL Plus claims the curb weights range from 3,780 to 3,853 pounds.

I still can't believe there are typos there like when you select S Plus, it says "62kW Battery". :roll: Whoever put those pages together isn't an EV enthusiast.

4,060 pounds would be pretty porky. https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en ... .tab1.html says '19 Bolt is 3,563 pounds, but Bolt is 11 inches shorter than a Leaf and Chevy decided to use a fair amount of aluminum. I found a quote that says about Bolt:
“The hood, front fenders, doors, and liftgate outer are made of aluminum,” GM Spokesperson Fred Ligouri wrote. “The roof and rear quarter panel are steel. Body structure is a mixture of mild, high-strength and advanced high-strength steel.”
The hood was pretty obvious to me given how light it was.

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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:03 am

Was the car empty when weighed?
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:14 am

LeftieBiker wrote:Was the car empty when weighed?
No, the battery was full.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:15 am

Does your SL have the all weather package? That adds some weight.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:29 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:Does your SL have the all weather package? That adds some weight.
The SL Plus comes with everything standard, there are no additional features you can add other than floor mats.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:21 am

OrientExpress wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:Was the car empty when weighed?
No, the battery was full.
<sigh> No, I meant were there any people (or anything else with weight) in it when weighed?
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:25 am

LeftieBiker wrote:No, I meant were there any people (or anything else with weight) in it when weighed?
A silly question, gets an appropriate answer.
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