In my long distance testing over about the same routes, the Kona, Niro and the LEAF Plus they were all in about the same general ballpark with a range from about 3.8 m/kWh to 5.0 m/kWh. The LEAF Plus did return the highest economy at 5.0 with the Kona in the middle of 4.0 and the Niro at 3.8, but my challenge was that the Kona and Niro encouraged lead-footing more than the LEAF. They have a sport mode, while the LEAF was more refined for steady state cruising. All three have 0-60 at about 6.5 sec, and how you finesse them will determine the economy.DougWantsALeaf wrote:Orient express, have you found the same? Is the leaf doing better in terms of miles per kWh than your Kona?
I'll keep that in mind.OrientExpress wrote:A silly question, gets an appropriate answer.LeftieBiker wrote:No, I meant were there any people (or anything else with weight) in it when weighed?
It's an entirely reasonable question, as curb weight refers to the car without payload, and if someone drove the car onto the scales and didn't get out and off the scale themselves, the weight indicated isn't the curb weight. Otherwise, the difference between the official curb weight and the curb weight reported would be well outside the expected variability from one car to the next - for the Plus, the S, SV and SL are officially credited with CW of 3,780 / 3,811 / 3,853 lbs. respectively. An extra 207 lbs. for the SL+ or over 5% heavy seems excessive.OrientExpress wrote:A silly question, gets an appropriate answer.LeftieBiker wrote:No, I meant were there any people (or anything else with weight) in it when weighed?
webeleafowners wrote:Curb weight for gas cars is car plus driver plus full fuel.
Dry weight is empty vehicle with no driver and no fuel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curb_weightCurb weight (American English) or kerb weight (British English) is the total mass of a vehicle with standard equipment and all necessary operating consumables such as motor oil, transmission oil, coolant, air conditioning refrigerant, and sometimes a full tank of fuel, while not loaded with either passengers or cargo. . . .
The United States Environmental Protection Agency regulations  define curb weight as follows: Curb weight means the actual or the manufacturer’s estimated weight of the vehicle in operational status with all standard equipment, and weight of fuel at nominal tank capacity, and the weight of optional equipment computed in accordance with §86.1832–01; incomplete light-duty trucks shall have the curb weight specified by the manufacturer.
Unladen mass depends on the manufacturer and can be the same as curb weight, however, it is often the total mass of the car without a driver, fluid or any additional equipment.
Hey, I resemble that remark.OrientExpress wrote:Leave it to a bunch of old nerds