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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:44 am
by alozzy
SageBrush wrote: As for the ~ 10k CAD price difference over an ICE Kona, I think you should count up what you pay in petrol costs for that car and consider your pollution contribution.
I'll be sticking with my 2013 Leaf for now, so no worries on that front. I mentioned the Kona ICE price difference because it's still a barrier to mass adoption of EVs, despite government subsidies. Like I said, hopefully battery price per kWh continues to fall over the next decade to eliminate that price difference.

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 5:06 am
by SageBrush
alozzy wrote: I mentioned the Kona ICE price difference because it's still a barrier to mass adoption of EVs, despite government subsidies. .
Only for the arithmetic challenged. Have Canucks succumbed to the same mass stupidity as their southern neighbors ?

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:56 pm
by alozzy
Sigh :roll: you clearly haven't understood that most people don't do the math to understand the total cost of ownership over the life of the car. I do understand, but that's irrelevant to my point.

I'm constantly explaining the TOC savings to people in my social circles and I often comment on online articles too, detailing the cost savings. Stop preaching to the choir...

Up front cost continues to dissuade people from choosing an EV, a fact that seems to have eluded you. Most people don't make car buying decisions based on logic and careful analysis, instead they make emotional decisions and rational justifications.

Do you even have a point to make, or do you just enjoy being snarky?

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:21 pm
by LeftieBiker
Social skills are a set completely different from those required for math and engineering. As a generalist myself, I think we all need to learn more 'tools' for dealing with the world. It's too late for me to learn advanced math - or even to re-learn algebra - but I remain hopeful that the math and engineering folks here will enhance their social skills, which are easier to upgrade.

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:46 pm
by SageBrush
alozzy wrote: most people don't do the math to understand the total cost of ownership
Obviously, and I'm not surprised.
They DO consider monthly out of pocket; I'm surprised they seem incapable of adding car+fuel together

I think Colorado was on the right track when they allowed dealerships to apply the state tax credit at the time of sale. The unexpected consequence though was that the dealerships raised prices ...

A facile and supportive government would make it trivial to amend income tax witholdings from salary.

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:37 am
by jlv
LeftieBiker wrote:but I remain hopeful that the math and engineering folks here will enhance their social skills, which are easier to upgrade.
They are not that easy to upgrade, especially as people get older.

But I highly recommend this book on that topic. It was a very interesting read.

If I Understood You, Would I Have This Look on My Face?
My Adventures in the Art and Science of Relating and Communicating

- By Alan Alda
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:18 pm
by gbrance
DougWantsALeaf wrote:Anyone with a plus on this thread have a high gid reading to share?
We recently leased a 2019 Nissan Leaf SV Plus.

I did a 100% full to full charge.

SOC = 97.2%
kWh=57.9 kwh
ah= 168.9
Volts- 403.3V
Temp = 81.8 Max
GIDs= 747
220 miles - 5% @ 3.9 miles/kWh

I charged the car overnight and this was reading in the morning.

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:16 pm
by DougWantsALeaf
I finally have my Leafspy up:

AHr: 173.90
SOH: 98.58
374.62 V
Hx =107.31
Odo=948 (though car has 1540 miles on it <- I am sure that is accurate based on travels)
6 QC
24 Lvl 1/2
SOC = 74.2
571 GIDs
44.3 kWh remain

Odometer has been pretty accurate to google maps on the Longer drives.

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:54 pm
by Flyct
DougWantsALeaf wrote:I finally have my Leafspy up:

AHr: 173.90
SOH: 98.58
374.62 V
Hx =107.31
Odo=948 (though car has 1540 miles on it <- I am sure that is accurate based on travels)
6 QC
24 Lvl 1/2
SOC = 74.2
571 GIDs
44.3 kWh remain

Odometer has been pretty accurate to google maps on the Longer drives.
I believe if you go to setting in LeafSpy and click Green “CAN odometer in miles” odometer will read correctly on page one.

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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:14 am
by NotATesla
I have LeafSpy Lite working in my car, still trying to understand everything I'm seeing...

AHr: 173.51
SOH: 98.36
373.42 V
Hx =108.01 (I'm not exactly sure I understand this number being over 100%?)
Odo=4,507 (for some reason it read 0 this morning even though it was working yesterday... maybe because this was during charging?)
18 QC
73 L1/L2
SOC = 69.8
GIDs & remaining kWh only on Pro