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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:30 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:22 pm
I will next time I fast charge.

Hey, anyone have an issue where their crash avoidance system goes offline and the little yellow car crashing logo starts flashing? It’s happened a couple times now in colder weather.
Yes. I first got it after driving over pulverized pavement last Fall, then got it a few times last Winter, but not since then, AFAIK.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:51 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:30 pm
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:22 pm
I will next time I fast charge.

Hey, anyone have an issue where their crash avoidance system goes offline and the little yellow car crashing logo starts flashing? It’s happened a couple times now in colder weather.
Yes. I first got it after driving over pulverized pavement last Fall, then got it a few times last Winter, but not since then, AFAIK.
Appears to be a rather common issue so guessing its partially rain, fog, and frost causing the issue since one or more of the 3 seems to be the common element. Despite living in an area famous (Olympia is THE foggiest city in the US, BTW) for 2 of the 3, I don't recall ever having it tell me it wasn't working but then again, it has never braked the car either. I do get the warning beeps especially when approaching roundabout in heavy traffic but that is all.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:10 am

Not common in the S model, which has none of the electronic oversight! Maybe we were just being cheap, but it seemed not to make sense to spend extra for these types of gizmos, something we may or may not regret. One anomaly we did notice: I would occasionally get the "Take a Break" notice on our '15 Leaf, my wife never did......
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:19 am

So about two weeks to the end of the year...and still no official “release” of the 2020. I would think this points to absolutely no changes. Still think it’s weird. There are lots of 2020 Nissan’s of other models on our dealers lot. Our salesman is a Leaf fan and follower and he hasn’t heard a thing either. Hmmmm
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:43 pm

https://storage.googleapis.com/geotab-s ... index.html

If you compare the 2017 Leaf to the 2016 and 2017 Tesla S, pretty comparable degradation.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:37 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:43 pm
https://storage.googleapis.com/geotab-s ... index.html

If you compare the 2017 Leaf to the 2016 and 2017 Tesla S, pretty comparable degradation.
Average degradation covers a lot of ground. We know that the Leaf does much better in cooler climates. That covers most of Europe and Japan. Leafs in Canada and the Pacific Northwest do well also. Are those stats masking a problem with warmer areas of the South and Southwest? I'd like to see a breakdown by region.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:46 pm

johnlocke wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:37 pm
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:43 pm
https://storage.googleapis.com/geotab-s ... index.html

If you compare the 2017 Leaf to the 2016 and 2017 Tesla S, pretty comparable degradation.
Average degradation covers a lot of ground. We know that the Leaf does much better in cooler climates. That covers most of Europe and Japan. Leafs in Canada and the Pacific Northwest do well also. Are those stats masking a problem with warmer areas of the South and Southwest? I'd like to see a breakdown by region.

From what I've seen it appears to me that hotter climates produce much more capacity loss in the 30kwh packs - not unlike the original "Canary" packs, just less extreme.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:27 pm

Here is a Leaf Spy of the charge.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OAtxiz ... p=drivesdk

Peak of 74.8 kW this time. 35 min from 9% to 71% on dash or 16.8 LS to 71.
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:04 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:27 pm
Here is a Leaf Spy of the charge.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OAtxiz ... p=drivesdk

Peak of 74.8 kW this time. 35 min from 9% to 71% on dash or 16.8 LS to 71.
That...is a perfect length lunch break. The problem with our 30KWH 2016 is it’s always pretty much full at around 20 - 25 min. Too quick for lunch. Kind of a timing game. :).
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Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:27 am

Now I did get 36.2 KIlowatts in that time. Or 0-125% or so of a 30 Leaf. Sweet spot seems to be about a 15-20 minute charge from near the bottom where you can pull 1.4-1.5 Kilowatts a minute.
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