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Re: Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:04 am
by xhaltsalute
Thanks for the responses. I understand outdoor plugs need to be GFCI and must be covered, per the National Electrical Code, which my local government enforces. My question was more about whether the EVSE (the entire unit that will be plugged into the outdoor RV plug, the cable, and the J-handle that goes into the car) is OK for outdoor use. There's a large "brick-like" portion (this would be supported by the included bracket) and I don't know if the "brick-like" portion needs to be protected from the elements or not. Probably a shield (or housing) of some sort would be advisable, but Nissan doesn't speak to this in the Owner's Manual. I suppose they think that we're all going to put that portable EVSE in the trunk each day...

Re: Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:04 am
by electricsal
xhaltsalute wrote:I'm hoping some of the uber-knowledgeable people on this board can help me out with some advice/opinions. I recently purchased a 2018 Leaf SL which came with the portable 240v EVSE (along with the adapter to plug in to a regular 110v outlet). I am planning on having an "RV plug" (NEMA14-50) installed by a licensed electrician so that I can achieve Level 2 charging at home. I do not have a garage and my car is parked in my driveway. I am planning on having the plug mounted on one of the support posts of my side porch. My main question is: can the EVSE that came with the car safely be used outdoors? (I would also be installing the bracket that came with the EVSE which presumably supports it sufficiently).

Any help is much appreciated. Thanks!
I installed my portable charger on the side of my house. I used a weather proof box, it plugs right in with a lockable cover(so no one steals your charger) Also purchased nozzle holder which i attatched to the box. Also purchased a level 1 (120 volt) portable charger ($260) to keep in the car. Installed it myself as i am a licensed electrician. Purchased everything on Amazon.ca. I have a pic, not sure how to post it

Re: Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:34 pm
by HerdingElectrons
electrical wrote: I installed my portable charger on the side of my house. I used a weather proof box, it plugs right in with a lockable cover(so no one steals your charger) Also purchased nozzle holder which i attatched to the box. Also purchased a level 1 (120 volt) portable charger ($260) to keep in the car. Installed it myself as i am a licensed electrician. Purchased everything on Amazon.ca. I have a pic, not sure how to post it
Upload the image on imgur & then post the URL to the image

Re: Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:30 am
by DustanT
Anyone use an adapter with there OEM 120/240 EVSE to go from a 50 amp 3 prong to the 14-50 on the EVSE? My dad has the 3 prong 50a for his welder and wondering if that would be safe for the OEM EVSE.

Re: Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:25 am
by LeftieBiker
DustanT wrote:Anyone use an adapter with there OEM 120/240 EVSE to go from a 50 amp 3 prong to the 14-50 on the EVSE? My dad has the 3 prong 50a for his welder and wondering if that would be safe for the OEM EVSE.
As long as the adapter is UL rated or at least high quality, it should be fine. The EVSE only takes as much current as it needs, so you can go higher in amperage - just not lower than a 40 amp circuit.

(Actually, charging from a 30A circuit would work - it just violates the electrical code and over hours you could get too much heat or a tripped breaker.)

Re: Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:25 pm
by jjeff
DustanT wrote:Anyone use an adapter with there OEM 120/240 EVSE to go from a 50 amp 3 prong to the 14-50 on the EVSE? My dad has the 3 prong 50a for his welder and wondering if that would be safe for the OEM EVSE.
You'd probably have to build one your self, not a big deal, I have several different adapters I've made. You just need a female 14-40, some heavy gauge wire(10g minimum) and a male plug of the style you want to convert from. Now going to a 14-50f you might be able to find a "Tesla" type adapter already made, on Amazon or such but they are quite easy to make and generally less than 1/2 or more the cost of a premade adapter.
Your welder outlet doesn't have a neutral but EVSEs don't use the neutral anyway so it will be just fine.

Re: Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:18 pm
by DustanT
jjeff wrote:
DustanT wrote:Anyone use an adapter with there OEM 120/240 EVSE to go from a 50 amp 3 prong to the 14-50 on the EVSE? My dad has the 3 prong 50a for his welder and wondering if that would be safe for the OEM EVSE.
You'd probably have to build one your self, not a big deal, I have several different adapters I've made. You just need a female 14-40, some heavy gauge wire(10g minimum) and a male plug of the style you want to convert from. Now going to a 14-50f you might be able to find a "Tesla" type adapter already made, on Amazon or such but they are quite easy to make and generally less than 1/2 or more the cost of a premade adapter.
Your welder outlet doesn't have a neutral but EVSEs don't use the neutral anyway so it will be just fine.
Thank you I'll get one made up.

Re: Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:57 pm
by davewill
DustanT wrote:
jjeff wrote:
DustanT wrote:Anyone use an adapter with there OEM 120/240 EVSE to go from a 50 amp 3 prong to the 14-50 on the EVSE? My dad has the 3 prong 50a for his welder and wondering if that would be safe for the OEM EVSE.
You'd probably have to build one your self, not a big deal, I have several different adapters I've made. You just need a female 14-40, some heavy gauge wire(10g minimum) and a male plug of the style you want to convert from. Now going to a 14-50f you might be able to find a "Tesla" type adapter already made, on Amazon or such but they are quite easy to make and generally less than 1/2 or more the cost of a premade adapter.
Your welder outlet doesn't have a neutral but EVSEs don't use the neutral anyway so it will be just fine.
Thank you I'll get one made up.
Or you can buy this one: https://www.evseadapters.com/collection ... nema-6-50p

Re: Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:16 pm
by junoman
For our brand new 2019 Leaf, after professional installation of a 14/50 circuit, with the plug in the receptacle, (but not attached to the car), there was a loud bang and the breaker flipped. Is there something special about the Nissan Leaf plug - like neutral is not supposed to be connected??

The EVSE still works fine on 110-120 but I dare not try it again on the 200 till the dealer explains what is going on. 50 amps could do some real damage to a human being.

Re: Nissan finally gets it with new 240V portable EVSE

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 9:16 am
by GerryAZ
junoman wrote:For our brand new 2019 Leaf, after professional installation of a 14/50 circuit, with the plug in the receptacle, (but not attached to the car), there was a loud bang and the breaker flipped. Is there something special about the Nissan Leaf plug - like neutral is not supposed to be connected??

The EVSE still works fine on 110-120 but I dare not try it again on the 200 till the dealer explains what is going on. 50 amps could do some real damage to a human being.
The Nissan unit is designed for a 4-wire 14-50 receptacle. Therefore, the Nissan unit needs to be checked for internal fault and the receptacle wiring/connections need to be verified.

Edited to add: Problem is more likely improper wiring of receptacle if it is new and has never been used.