Page 8 of 12

Re: Love and Hate about our new Leaf 2018

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:23 pm
by Sch
Love:
E-Pedal
Adaptive Cruise Control
Silent power/pickup
The general quietness
The cameras and the overview mode where you can see as from 15’ up.
Headlights auto mode and dimmer
Big fun to drive
The hatch back and cavernous capacity and automatic tonneau rising when you open the hatch
CarPlay!!
Economy
Never having to go to a gas station again!
The outside look and design

Safety!! Actually safety was my main justification for selling my wonderful 2007 Prius and buying the Leaf.
As an 80 year old, I know that I’m not as responsive a driver as I used to be, and besides I get distracted with anything from fiddling with my iPhone to the radio or smoking a duby on my way home. Blind spot warning, lane wandering alerts and emergency braking are valuable to me.

Hate:
Whoever designed the interior should be fired or sent back to design school!

My previous Hondas and Prius had all these wonderful little cubbies where I could keep things organized. The Leaf has 1 huge glove box that will end up hard to find what in there, one dinky uncovered cubby under the center console and 1 small cubby under the center arm rest.

More important is that the center arm rest is too high and too far back! Then in between the arm rest and the shift are the water bottle holders where your arm should be resting. I’m amazed that no one else has mentioned this.

I think I can fix it by removing the armrest top, which is pretty thick and replace it with a thinner, padded top which extends forward almost to the shifter (over the water bottle wells), then affix a water bottle holder by the passenger’s left knee. But I shouldn’t have to do such a thing!

Re: Love and Hate about our new Leaf 2018

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:02 pm
by kosjet
Sch wrote: I’m a very new 2018 Leaf owner.
What’s the difference between B-Mode and the E-Peddle?
For all you could want to know about ePedal and B-Mode and more thanks to Dave and his blog.
http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com/2018/11 ... -mode.html

Re: Love and Hate about our new Leaf 2018

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:02 pm
by LeftieBiker
If you don't want to read a blog to get a simple question answered: B Mode is very similar to driving a manual transmission in a lower gear for engine braking. It increases regenerative braking when you lift your foot off the accelerator. It does not apply the friction brakes and thus will not stop the car. If you use ePedal, the brakes are applied as needed to stop the car after increased regenerative braking slows it, allowing for true one pedal (the accelerator) driving in most situations. It is useful mainly in city driving.

Re: Love and Hate about our new Leaf 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:10 pm
by kosjet
You know I was driving the other day and had to slam on the brakes because someone cut me off and it got me thinking that there's an increased safety factor with EVs in that the car immediately decelerates when you lift off the accelerator pedal instead of when you hit the brake pedal. That maybe 1/4 or 1/2 second advantage of extra braking could make the difference in avoiding a crash or least marginally reducing the impact of a crash. Another reason I'm loving my Leaf and will never go back!

Re: Love and Hate about our new Leaf 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:26 pm
by LeftieBiker
A standard shift ICEV will also decelerate instantly, unless it's in the highest gear at low speeds.

Re: Love and Hate about our new Leaf 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:50 am
by DaveinOlyWA
LeftieBiker wrote:A standard shift ICEV will also decelerate instantly, unless it's in the highest gear at low speeds.
I think its not difficult to understand the point he was trying to make.

Re: Love and Hate about our new Leaf 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:52 pm
by LeftieBiker
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:A standard shift ICEV will also decelerate instantly, unless it's in the highest gear at low speeds.
I think its not difficult to understand the point he was trying to make.
I do, and that point seemed to be that EVs are inherently safer than ICEVs because they decelerate when you lift your right foot. Both of you seem to lack any experience with standard shift cars.

Re: Love and Hate about our new Leaf 2018

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:55 am
by DaveinOlyWA
LeftieBiker wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:A standard shift ICEV will also decelerate instantly, unless it's in the highest gear at low speeds.
I think its not difficult to understand the point he was trying to make.
I do, and that point seemed to be that EVs are inherently safer than ICEVs because they decelerate when you lift your right foot. Both of you seem to lack any experience with standard shift cars.
The only thing lacking is your inability to have an open mind. I have driven nearly every kind of vehicle available. The deceleration of a manual transmission car in its highest gear is minimal at best.

I guess if you dig deep enough and long enough into your memory, you will be able to find a possible exception. You have proven that. Now lets talk about the topic.

Re: Love and Hate about our new Leaf 2018

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:03 pm
by LeftieBiker
If you are driving in 5th gear (or even 4th if no 5th) on city streets, you aren't doing it right. Most EVs don't use heavy regen in highway driving unless you've selected B or L mode, in which case you also aren't driving right.

Re: Love and Hate about our new Leaf 2018

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:36 pm
by kosjet
LeftieBiker wrote: I do, and that point seemed to be that EVs are inherently safer than ICEVs because they decelerate when you lift your right foot. Both of you seem to lack any experience with standard shift cars.
So... I actually have owned 4 different manual shift cars over 20 years and still own one. When lifting the throttle under normal driving it does not decelerate at the same rate as my Leaf when driving in e-pedal mode (which is the mode I drive in all the time), and certainly not strong enough for the car to be regulated to turn on the brake lights. I can possibly see that if you were driving at greater than 4-5k RPM and you lift the throttle, the engine braking could decelerate you at a similar rate. I guess I'm not as aggressive a driver as you Leftie. ;)