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Re: Reddit: Nissan Leaf e+ revealed with longer range at 2019 CES

Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:18 pm

We could easily browse Nissan Japan in Google Chrome with translate to see what options are available for Leaf Plus. It looks like Nissan only offers 2 trim levels and All around view is an option on lower trim.


=== Here is manufacturer options on lower trim level (probably SV level in US)
Seats available in Gray and Black both fabric and leather
Winter weather package
Electric Brake and Backup alarm
ProPilot with + All Around View (only available in top trim on 40kWh) + Electric Brake (US probably would get this with all trims as standard)
All Around View also available as stand alone option

Wheel/Tire sizes are the same as in 40 kWh version.

===

https://www3.nissan.co.jp/vehicles/new/ ... ug/version
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Re: Reddit: Nissan Leaf e+ revealed with longer range at 2019 CES

Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:33 pm

Top Trim standard features: e + G (2WD)
Manufacturer's suggested retail price 4,729,320 yen

Main equipment list

Visibility
Intelligent auto light system (interlocked with front wiper, with light sense sensing "Omoiyari Light" function)
High beam assist
Door mirror with heater
Intelligent room mirror
Super UV cut green glass <front>
UV cut heat insulating green glass <Front door>
Privacy glass (with UV cut heat insulation function) <Riyadora, Back door>
Heat line rear window (with timer)
Front vehicle speed sensing stepless wiper (with mist function)
Rear crimp style wiper
Battery saver (room lamp, headlamp)
LED head lamp (high / low beam, with auto leveler, with signature lamp)
Front halogen fog lamp
Electric retractable remote control colored door mirror with side turn lamp (with key lock interlocking storage function)
Professional pilot parking
Intelligent Around View Monitor (with moving object detection function)
High Brightness LED Rear Combination Lamp

Driver's seat around
Genuine leather-wrapped steering wheel (with steering heater)
Steering switch (meter · display control, audio, hands free phone, professional pilot)
Electric parking brake
Power switch (with switch light)
Glove box (damper, with light)
e-Pedal
Advanced drive assist display (7 inch color display) (with driving computer, clock, outside temperature display)
USB power socket <front seat>
Vehicle speed responsive electric power steering
Tilt steering
Centralized door lock (back door interlocking)
Comfort flasher
Sun visor (driver's seat: vanity mirror, with ticket holder, passenger's seat: with vanity mirror)
Power window (all seats: water resistant type, driver's seat: one touch, operation after key off, with pinch prevention mechanism)
Displayable cruising distance
Plug-in indicator light
Battery fuel gauge / capacity meter / thermometer
Output limit indicator light
Power Meter
Eco indicator
Liquid crystal odd twin trip meter
Shift position indicator
Outside air thermometer
Half door warning light
Headlamp missing alarm
Key forget alarm
Parking brake return missing alarm
Power window switch lighting <Driver's seat>
Room lamp
Key interlocking room interior lighting system
Power supply socket (12 VDC)
Front / rear door pocket (with bottle holder)
Electrical shift (with B range)
Intelligent Key (driver's seat, the front passenger seat back door charging port lid opener, charging connector lock release function, with operation confirmation function, two key)
Cup holder <front 2 pieces>

Sheet / interior
Sheet ground leather
Front seat quick comfort seat with heater seat
Seat back pocket <driver's seat / passenger's seat>
Rear foldable seat (6: 4 split)
Finisher Center Cluster
Finisher center console, power window switch base
Finisher install panel
Driver's seat lifter (ratchet type)
Adjustable head restraint <Driver's seat, Passenger's seat>
Head rest <3 rear seats>
Assist grip <driver's seat, passenger's seat, rear seat, with damper>
Left-luggage room lamp
Charging cable storage net (with cable storage bag)

air conditioning
Heat Pump System (Power Saving Heating System)
PTC element heater (5 kW)
Clean filter (with deodorizing function)
Full automatic air conditioner with plasma cluster (skin moisturizing, disinfection function attached, push type, navi screen display)

Audio / Navigation
Timer air conditioner
Remote charge
Timer charging
BOSE (R) Energy Efficient Series Sound System & 7 Speaker
NissanConnect dedicated in-vehicle communication unit (TCU [Telematics Control Unit])
Glass antenna (for terrestrial digital broadcasting)
Roof antenna (foldable type)
EV exclusive NissanConnect navigation system (built-in terrestrial digital broadcasting) (7 inch wide display, hands free phone, VICS [FM multiplex], voice command, Bluetooth (R) compatible, DVD / CD playback function, Apple CarPlay (TM), Android Auto, USB Connection, iPod (R) compatible, AM / FM radio, AUX terminal)
Before riding Air conditioner (remote)
ETC unit (built-in type)

Exterior
e + exterior exterior (front bumper)
Rear Roof Spoiler
Plating outside door handle
Normal charging port (with charging connector locking mechanism), rapid charging port, charging port light
Tire emergency repair kit (spare tire less)
Charging cable (with control box, 200 V for 7.5 m)

mechanism
6 kW ordinary charger (for automotive use)
Stabilizer <Front, rear>
Front ventilated disc brake
Rear ventilated disc brake
Regenerative cooperative brake

safety
LDW (lane departure warning)
VDC (Vehicle dynamics control [including TCS function])
ABS (anti-lock brake system)
EBD (electronic control braking force distribution system)
Hill start assist
Front & Back Sonar
Prohibition of entrance sign detection
Pro pilot
Intelligent DA (wandering alarm)
Intelligent trace control (cornering stability improvement system)
Three-point seat belt with all-seat ELR
Double pretensioner seat belt with driver's seat 2 stage load limiter
Pre-tensioner seat belt with passenger's seat 2 stage load limiter
When front seatbelt is not worn Warning light & warning sound (seat belt reminder)
Front seat seat height adjustment type seat belt anchor
Pretensioner seat belt with load limiter <Rear left and right>
ISO FIX compatible anchor for child seat <Rear left and right 2 seats>
Brake assist
Intelligent ride control (vehicle body vibration suppression system)
Brake pedal retraction suppressing mechanism
LED type high mount stop lamp
Immobilizer (Approved items by Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport)
Vehicle approach notification device
Child safety door lock
Airbag deployment interlocking hazard lamp
Intelligent Emergency Brake
SRS air bag system <front seat>
SRS side air bag system <front seat>
SRS curtain airbag system
Tread mistake Collision prevention assist
BSW (rear side vehicle detection alarm)
RCTA (vehicle detection alarm at backward)
Intelligent LI (Lane departure prevention support system)
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Re: Reddit: Nissan Leaf e+ revealed with longer range at 2019 CES

Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:38 pm

e + X (2WD)
Manufacturer's suggested retail price 4,162,320 yen

Main equipment list

Visibility
Intelligent auto light system (interlocked with front wiper, with light sense sensing "Omoiyari Light" function)
High beam assist
Antiglare Room Mirror
Super UV cut green glass <front>
UV cut heat insulating green glass <Front door>
Privacy glass (with UV cut heat insulation function) <Riyadora, Back door>
Heat line rear window (with timer)
Front vehicle speed sensing stepless wiper (with mist function)
Rear crimp style wiper
Battery saver (room lamp, headlamp)
LED head lamp (high / low beam, with auto leveler, with signature lamp)
Electric retractable remote control colored door mirror with side turn lamp (with key lock interlocking storage function)
Back view monitor (color, vehicle width / distance / expected course line display function attached)
High Brightness LED Rear Combination Lamp

Driver's seat around
Genuine leather-wrapped steering wheel (with steering heater)
Steering switch (meter · display control, cruise control, audio, hands-free phone)
Foot-operated parking brake (foot release type)
Power switch (with switch light)
Cruise control
Glove box (damper, with light)
e-Pedal
Advanced drive assist display (7 inch color display) (with driving computer, clock, outside temperature display)
USB power socket <front seat>
Vehicle speed responsive electric power steering
Tilt steering
Centralized door lock (back door interlocking)
Comfort flasher
Sun visor (driver's seat: vanity mirror, with ticket holder, passenger's seat: with vanity mirror)
Power window (all seats: water resistant type, driver's seat: one touch, operation after key off, with pinch prevention mechanism)
Displayable cruising distance
Plug-in indicator light
Battery fuel gauge / capacity meter / thermometer
Output limit indicator light
Power Meter
Eco indicator
Liquid crystal odd twin trip meter
Shift position indicator
Outside air thermometer
Half door warning light
Headlamp missing alarm
Key forget alarm
Parking brake return missing alarm
Power window switch lighting <Driver's seat>
Room lamp
Key interlocking room interior lighting system
Power supply socket (12 VDC)
Front / rear door pocket (with bottle holder)
Electrical shift (with B range)
Intelligent Key (driver's seat, the front passenger seat back door charging port lid opener, charging connector lock release function, with operation confirmation function, two key)
Cup holder <front 2 pieces>

Sheet / interior
Front seat quick comfort seat with heater seat
Seat back pocket <driver's seat / passenger's seat>
Rear foldable seat (6: 4 split)
Finisher Center Cluster
Finisher center console, power window switch base
Finisher install panel
Driver's seat lifter (ratchet type)
Adjustable head restraint <Driver's seat, Passenger's seat>
Head rest <3 rear seats>
Assist grip <driver's seat, passenger's seat, rear seat, with damper>
Left-luggage room lamp
Charging cable storage net (with cable storage bag)
Sheet fabric (bio PET)

air conditioning
Heat Pump System (Power Saving Heating System)
PTC element heater (5 kW)
Clean filter (with deodorizing function)
Full auto air conditioner (push type, navi screen display)

Audio / Navigation
Timer air conditioner
Remote charge
Timer charging
NissanConnect dedicated in-vehicle communication unit (TCU [Telematics Control Unit])
4 speaker
Glass antenna (for terrestrial digital broadcasting)
Roof antenna (foldable type)
EV exclusive NissanConnect navigation system (built-in terrestrial digital broadcasting) (7 inch wide display, hands free phone, VICS [FM multiplex], voice command, Bluetooth (R) compatible, DVD / CD playback function, Apple CarPlay (TM), Android Auto, USB Connection, iPod (R) compatible, AM / FM radio, AUX terminal)
Before riding Air conditioner (remote)
ETC unit (built-in type)

Exterior
e + exterior exterior (front bumper)
Rear Roof Spoiler
Plating outside door handle
Normal charging port (with charging connector locking mechanism), rapid charging port, charging port light
Tire emergency repair kit (spare tire less)
Charging cable (with control box, 200 V for 7.5 m)

mechanism
6 kW ordinary charger (for automotive use)
Stabilizer <Front, rear>
Front ventilated disc brake
Rear ventilated disc brake
Regenerative cooperative brake

safety
LDW (lane departure warning)
VDC (Vehicle dynamics control [including TCS function])
ABS (anti-lock brake system)
EBD (electronic control braking force distribution system)
Hill start assist
Front & Back Sonar
Prohibition of entrance sign detection
Intelligent trace control (cornering stability improvement system)
Three-point seat belt with all-seat ELR
Double pretensioner seat belt with driver's seat 2 stage load limiter
Pre-tensioner seat belt with passenger's seat 2 stage load limiter
When front seatbelt is not worn Warning light & warning sound (seat belt reminder)
Front seat seat height adjustment type seat belt anchor
Pretensioner seat belt with load limiter <Rear left and right>
ISO FIX compatible anchor for child seat <Rear left and right 2 seats>
Brake assist
Intelligent ride control (vehicle body vibration suppression system)
Brake pedal retraction suppressing mechanism
LED type high mount stop lamp
Immobilizer (Approved items by Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport)
Vehicle approach notification device
Child safety door lock
Airbag deployment interlocking hazard lamp
Intelligent Emergency Brake
SRS air bag system <front seat>
SRS side air bag system <front seat>
SRS curtain airbag system
Tread mistake Collision prevention assist
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Re: Reddit: Nissan Leaf e+ revealed with longer range at 2019 CES

Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:55 pm

Redacted and moved Ionic mini review to Other EV forum' Ionic topic. No way to delete it here as there was a reply. Will erase content instead.
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Re: Reddit: Nissan Leaf e+ revealed with longer range at 2019 CES

Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:08 pm

You should copy this review, or at least a link to it, to the Ionic topic. Very helpful. How did the car ride and handle?
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Re: Reddit: Nissan Leaf e+ revealed with longer range at 2019 CES

Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:25 pm

Looks like Nissan and Leaf both live in alternative universe. Yet another non sense news:

Nissan Leaf E+ may lose 25 miles of range in higher trims, report says: https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/niss ... ty-report/

62 kWh for 215 Miles on top trims, lovely.

I am sure, if I would drive Ionic like I drove my Leaf, I would get the same range with 28 kWh battery. What is going on at Nissan? Did they lost all electrical engineering talents or may be they all left for Hyundai?
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Re: Reddit: Nissan Leaf e+ revealed with longer range at 2019 CES

Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:59 pm

Leaf15 wrote:Looks like Nissan and Leaf both live in alternative universe. Yet another non sense news:

Nissan Leaf E+ may lose 25 miles of range in higher trims, report says: https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/niss ... ty-report/
...
I am sure, if I would drive Ionic like I drove my Leaf, I would get the same range with 28 kWh battery. What is going on at Nissan? Did they lost all electrical engineering talents or may be they all left for Hyundai?
It could be an issue of weight and wheels on higher trims. It was during development of gen 3 Prius (https://priuschat.com/threads/most-obsc ... ost-905261). I'm guessing marketing was demanding 50 mpg or it was already promised.

We'll see.

I suspect Nissan was constrained by several dimensions: dimensions of the vehicle (e.g. exterior, ground clearance, space for the pack), cost, energy density of the chemistry they chose, aerodynamics, weight and max cargo + passenger weight requirements, what marketing wanted (for equipment on each trim level vs. cost vs. price to the consumer), and how much they could change vs. 40 kWh Leaf w/o incurring huge costs.

edit: https://insideevs.com/base-nissan-leaf-e-most-range/ and the AutoNews article it points to has a bit more info.

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Re: Reddit: Nissan Leaf e+ revealed with longer range at 2019 CES

Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:42 am

cwerdna wrote:It could be an issue of weight and wheels on higher trims.
According to Japanese e-plus online ordering the wheel options, specifically tires are identical to Leaf with 40 kWh, so wheels may not be the explanation. Ironically, in Prius case, marketing was demanding higher MPG, but in Nissan case, they end up with even less efficient car, which was not exactly an efficiency champion in the first place.
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Re: Reddit: Nissan Leaf e+ revealed with longer range at 2019 CES

Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:31 am

It's always about the tires.
The 16-inchers on the S are shod in 205/55/16 Bridgestone Ecopia rubber, while SV and SL use 215/50/17 Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires.
Narrower tires are significantly more efficient (noticeably better CdA). Plus different rubber compound changes things on the rollers as well.

Anyone with SL SV who chooses to downgrade to S wheels and tires will get the benefit.

Also there is nothing wrong with Leaf's efficiency. Especially in winter. Compared to e-tron, I-Pace, Model S, Model X (even though they are bigger, difference is size does not match difference in efficiency).
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Re: Reddit: Nissan Leaf e+ revealed with longer range at 2019 CES

Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:38 pm

Anyone with SL SV who chooses to downgrade to S wheels and tires will get the benefit.
I really, really don't intend to disagree with you about everything, Arnis, but the Gen I Leaf has wheel wells that are too large for the 16" wheels - they suck power through aerodynamic drag as air gets pulled into those caverns. It's pretty clear that either the car was originally designed for the 17" wheels that in the end came only with the SL until 2015 (?), or Nissan just didn't care about the extra drag, which would be stupid but not inconsistent with their overall philosophy of "Just let the salespeople promise anything and everything." I'm not sure about the 2018+ Leaf, but since the 17" wheels and tires fit, I'd guess that they too provide less drag. Now 16" wheels with LRR tires vs 17" wheels with much higher resistance tires, THAT might well give you an improvement overall - especially at lower speeds.
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