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Re: Use of e pedal and smoothness of ride

Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:50 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:18 am
webeleafowners wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:52 am
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:42 am
Agreed, I have seen some hard freeway deceleration cycles (say 75mph to 5mph on a decline) regen and add a whole degree C to the pack in 30 seconds...so maybe the fastest way to charge is to have the leaf towed in B/ePedal mode.
It’s funny you say that Doug. We are motorhomers. Although we have tended to pull a car on a trailer behind us, many motorhomers like to pull their vehicles “4 down”. Lots of discussion in the RV forums on how to pull an EV and have it charged when you arrive at your destination. :). Sooner or later someone will try it. It won’t be us. :).

Our introduction to Epedal was when we were ordering a 2020 Leaf SL plus. We were thoroughly impressed. IMHO the Epedal on the leaf and model 3 feel very similar with the leaf maybe having a little gentler stop than the 3.
The problem with that is you are force charging against the BMS which will lead to disastrous results. I can also imagine the drag on the motorhome's engine is something you will not want to deal with either.
Yah. Could be. Not an expert. But using the Leaf as an example, when our leaf was at 100 percent it had no regen. Would it not just stop charging.

The extra drag would probably not be noticed in the diesel pushers. Lots of torque and HP. We barely noticed pulling a 10,000 pound load.
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Re: Use of e pedal and smoothness of ride

Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:45 am

webeleafowners wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:50 am
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:18 am
webeleafowners wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:52 am


It’s funny you say that Doug. We are motorhomers. Although we have tended to pull a car on a trailer behind us, many motorhomers like to pull their vehicles “4 down”. Lots of discussion in the RV forums on how to pull an EV and have it charged when you arrive at your destination. :). Sooner or later someone will try it. It won’t be us. :).

Our introduction to Epedal was when we were ordering a 2020 Leaf SL plus. We were thoroughly impressed. IMHO the Epedal on the leaf and model 3 feel very similar with the leaf maybe having a little gentler stop than the 3.
The problem with that is you are force charging against the BMS which will lead to disastrous results. I can also imagine the drag on the motorhome's engine is something you will not want to deal with either.
Yah. Could be. Not an expert. But using the Leaf as an example, when our leaf was at 100 percent it had no regen. Would it not just stop charging.

The extra drag would probably not be noticed in the diesel pushers. Lots of torque and HP. We barely noticed pulling a 10,000 pound load.
Well, that would mean that regen would be much more limited at high SOC or/and high temperature and that i have not seen. I saw 9 kw of regen on my 2018 when it was at 99% SOC. A normal DC charge would be below 20 Kw by the time you hit 85% but I have seen regen at 40 kw.

Now, we also have to consider constant charging power verses regen which is short quick bursts. How much that plays into it, I don't know but in a towing situation, It would be max'd out all the time at any speed and regen requires conversion when DC charging does not.

On the drag, that 10,000 lb load wasn't dragging the brakes but your LEAF in regen would feel exactly like that. Big difference.
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Re: Use of e pedal and smoothness of ride

Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:20 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:45 am
webeleafowners wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:50 am
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:18 am


The problem with that is you are force charging against the BMS which will lead to disastrous results. I can also imagine the drag on the motorhome's engine is something you will not want to deal with either.
Yah. Could be. Not an expert. But using the Leaf as an example, when our leaf was at 100 percent it had no regen. Would it not just stop charging.

The extra drag would probably not be noticed in the diesel pushers. Lots of torque and HP. We barely noticed pulling a 10,000 pound load.
Well, that would mean that regen would be much more limited at high SOC or/and high temperature and that i have not seen. I saw 9 kw of regen on my 2018 when it was at 99% SOC. A normal DC charge would be below 20 Kw by the time you hit 85% but I have seen regen at 40 kw.

Now, we also have to consider constant charging power verses regen which is short quick bursts. How much that plays into it, I don't know but in a towing situation, It would be max'd out all the time at any speed and regen requires conversion when DC charging does not.

On the drag, that 10,000 lb load wasn't dragging the brakes but your LEAF in regen would feel exactly like that. Big difference.
Interesting. Now we know why the couple times I have seen a leaf behind a Motorhome it was on a dolly. :)
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2016 Nissan Leaf SV 30KWh Culis Red. Sold. Was my daily driver. Loved that car.
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