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Re: How many driving modes are there really?

Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:29 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:21 pm
Eco also reduces the amount of current the heater can draw, and I believe it also reduces the maximum current for the A/C as well. The difference isn't noticeable unless it's really cold or really hot outside.
Eco also re-maps the throttle response, making it fairly linear. In normal mode, you get more power with the first bit of pedal movement, which some people interpret as "more peppy". The intent seems to be for eco to encourage more gentle acceleration. I simply find it easier and more pleasant to drive. If I want more power I'm perfectly able to send my foot forward to find it. :)
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Re: How many driving modes are there really?

Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:33 pm

We did cover that. The question was about what else Eco does.

EDIT: No, I guess we didn't. I assumed from the first post that the OP knew what Eco primarily does. Oops...
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Re: How many driving modes are there really?

Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:15 pm

BAsrican wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:39 am
I'm still waiting for my dealership to call and say they finally have the Leaf I want. In the meantime, I'm wondering something about driving modes

From what I read, you can have (1) Eco mode on or off, (2) D or B selected from the shifter, and (3) e-pedal engaged or not. My question is: With all these options, does this mean there are really 8 (2*2*2) unique driving modes? Or do certain modes take over if selected; like is e-pedal the same no matter what position the shifter or eco is set to?

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No. E Pedal stands alone. I have seen many claim that Eco changes E Pedal but I found that to be unobservable in my case so...YMMV

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Re: How many driving modes are there really?

Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:16 pm

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Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:02 am
Hey Brent good choice of car! e-pedal does take over when engaged, it overrides the D and B settings by maximizing regenerative braking. I use it in traffic but not on the highway. At least in the 2 Leafs I have owned it does NOT stay on when the car is turned off, you need to engage it each time. ECO, OTOH, stays on unless you turn it off (it is always ON in our Leaf). ECO allows you to toggle between D and B and neutral (to shift into neutral, hold the shift knob toward you for a second or 2, the car will shift into N, this is handy when going thru car washes or when you want to coast down a long hill to save energy and gain momentum). You will very quickly get the hang of all of this- some drivers just get in and drive and others love to be always fiddling with the regen and momentum, it probably does not make a huge amount of difference to the over all efficiency but it gives me something to do!
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Re: How many driving modes are there really?

Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:21 pm

henrydehoja wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:23 pm
BAsrican wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:32 am
Oh, and also neutral for coasting downhill, I guess?
Actually, the manual indicates not to shift to neutral while driving.

Neutral is helpful when going through an automatic car wash (where the wash station pulls your car through) or when being towed.
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Re: How many driving modes are there really?

Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:35 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:15 pm
No. E Pedal stands alone. I have seen many claim that Eco changes E Pedal but I found that to be unobservable in my case so...YMMV
It might be model year dependent. I do have a 2018 and a 2020 to experiment with. It's makes a difference in my 2020, but I don't drive my wife's 2018, so it's possible it behaves differently. Normally I would make a video about it, but given today is a holiday and the weather is bad, maybe later this week. ;)
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Re: How many driving modes are there really?

Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:38 pm

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Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:35 pm
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:15 pm
No. E Pedal stands alone. I have seen many claim that Eco changes E Pedal but I found that to be unobservable in my case so...YMMV
It might be model year dependent. I do have a 2018 and a 2020 to experiment with. It's makes a difference in my 2020, but I don't drive my wife's 2018, so it's possible it behaves differently. Normally I would make a video about it, but given today is a holiday and the weather is bad, maybe later this week. ;)
Had 2018 and 2019 Plus. I was looking for quantifiable differences with LS and found none. I did anywhere from a half dozen to several dozen observations and didn't see anything? Now there is well publicized changes to the drive response that started in 2022 (along with removing the climate package as an option) sooooo

But remember; YMMV
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Re: How many driving modes are there really?

Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:47 pm

Now there is well publicized changes to the drive response that started in 2022
I wish. It actually started in '21.
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Re: How many driving modes are there really?

Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:17 pm

If it's bad enough I imagine the CAN bus man-in-the middle could be used to change it.

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