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Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:10 pm

It gets applied to the lease in some form or other. I think the total contribution from Nissan is $10k. To be honest, I haven't been focusing on this, because until she agreed last night, I wasn't expecting her to go for the deal. I'll try to get a breakdown from the sales guy.
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Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:39 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:10 pm
It gets applied to the lease in some form or other. I think the total contribution from Nissan is $10k. To be honest, I haven't been focusing on this, because until she agreed last night, I wasn't expecting her to go for the deal. I'll try to get a breakdown from the sales guy.
Break down would be a bit of surprise.

TLDR; "We can make it work one way or the other"

Details;
Mine was always listed as part of cash down as part of the cap reduction. The lease is confusing as even "zero down" is actually not zero down since first payment is due at signing along with random fees, but they just adjust the monthlies to make it zero down.

On my current lease;

Amount due at signing; $10,500
Cap reduction; 9484.38
Negotiated price discount; $4014. not listed but taken from sticker ($38,818) and "agreed" upon price of $34,400 plus fees, delivery to get Gross capitalized cost.

So we end up with Adjusted Capitalized cost (What you pay if you finish the lease and purchase car minus fees, taxes, etc.) 25,965.62

If I had paid off car before first lease payment was due, cost would have been $25,981.47 plus a partial tax on portion not covered by WA State.

So overall; a $14.5ish k reduction (remember delivery charges) Now before we think the above is straightforward, before that math could be done, my dealer paid off my existing lease (16 remaining payments) and bought the car which probably cost me something but maybe not. there is a break even point on a lease due to high incentives but don't know when that would have occured. I am guessing since I was on day one of month 21 (last payment was returned making 16 outstanding) I am thinking I was a bit underwater by then?
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Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:07 pm

Nissan incentives total $10,650.00 There is, as I think I noted, a NYS tax incentive of $2k that covers the sales tax at least. I'll add the incentive above.
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Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:10 pm

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Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:05 am
Congrats. Is it a 2019 or 2020?
2020. We could have gotten her a 2019 for a bit less, but it lacks Around View and is a color (Gun Metal Grey) that we find tolerable, but not pleasant. The 2020 is pretty much the car I would have been shopping for in a few months. As part of her getting this car, we are going to try going to just one car between us when I turn in my 2018 next April. I will also have my electric Maxi-Scooter.
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Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:56 pm

Final payment figures (unless they try to lower the trade in value, in which case she will walk):

$273/month for 36 months
$4200 cash back ($300 of which will pay to have the Protection Package added.)
I still don't have the residual, but that's fixed by NMAC these days, so it should be around $18k.
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Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:14 pm

Enjoy having the extended range. I am jealous we don't have around view in our SV.
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Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:26 pm

I've become dependent on Around View, having used it for 7 years now. The range will mainly go to allowing her to keep it just over 50% charged, and still not have range anxiety. She's been saying for years "I just don't think that a BEV is practical in this kind of climate." It turns out that all she needed was a 200 mile range to dispel that idea.
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Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:51 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:26 pm
I've become dependent on Around View, having used it for 7 years now. The range will mainly go to allowing her to keep it just over 50% charged, and still not have range anxiety. She's been saying for years "I just don't think that a BEV is practical in this kind of climate." It turns out that all she needed was a 200 mile range to dispel that idea.
The range makes all the difference in the World. Over 2½ years EV only with zero concerns but the kicker; even if I lose 1/3rd of my range, I am still fine.
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Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:33 pm

The other idea behind getting a Plus is that she may decide to buy it off lease, and even with 32% capacity loss it would have at least as much range as my car did when new. Then if any more is lost, she gets a new battery.
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Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:47 am

I am now a believer that the psychology of having over 200 miles range makes all the difference. I was skeptical when media pundits put it out there a few years ago, but am now a believer. While we do have a monthly trip to see family which is just shy of a 200 mile trip, most of driving is local. I usually top it up to 70-80% when it gets into the 30s. Basically always at minimum a 100 miles on tap or more.

Sure 300 is better, but only incrementally so. Notice ID4 and others are only shooting for mid 200s. As long as DC fast charging is available, even at 50, most drivers will not really feel impacted if timed well with food and bathroom stops.

Anecdotally, I see new Chademos popping up on the map, so think we have a support for a number of years.
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