There are probably very few 14s on the market but I don't think you're right about '13s. You should start seeing more cars of a given year once 2 or 3 year leases run out. I had a 2 year lease. The used Leaf I bought to replace the one I returned was previously a 2 year lease.jtrinkle wrote:Fewer 2013's, and almost no 2014's are on the market. Am I seeing this correctly ?
jtrinkle wrote:I want this car for running around, maybe 30 miles per day. I can charge overnight in my garage. Can I expect to get several years of use and battery life and few maintenance problems with a car of this vintage ?
The warranty I mentioned, that I think is triggering the sales is the 5 year one. It seems like people are getting rid of these cars at about 5 or 6 years.
I have a back up car for using when the weather is not great. A leaf for me would be just for driving on nice days and short trips.
jtrinkle wrote: The warranty I mentioned, that I think is triggering the sales is the 5 year one.
New 2012's were still being sold into early 2013, so the 2012's you're seeing are likely just coming off 3 year leases. Early leases were quite expensive so it's conceivable that some of these early cars had 4 year leases to keep the payments down. It was late in 2012 before Nissan started offering the cheap Leaf leases that are pretty much expected today. Such an offer is what finally got me into a Leaf and my own 3year lease is expiring in a few weeks.jtrinkle wrote:The warranty I mentioned, that I think is triggering the sales is the 5 year one. It seems like people are getting rid of these cars at about 5 or 6 years.
Jefe wrote:jtrinkle wrote: The warranty I mentioned, that I think is triggering the sales is the 5 year one.
I don't think the 5-year powertrain warranty would cause anyone to ditch their Leaf. There isn't a huge risk of powertrain failure and most of the early adopters leased. The real concern is the battery. A lot of people are playing a game right now of "can i run my battery down enough to qualify for warranty replacement." Most of the used Leafs you see are off-lease and those are largely cyclical and tend to align with product updates. The earliest adopters got the 2011 Leafs in Dec '10 - Feb. '11.
Yep on all of these.RonDawg wrote: A big reason you are seeing a lot of these cars in used car auctions is because the residuals are far higher than their actual values. Plus there are more and better alternatives out there now that weren't available in 2011 or even 2012. Some previous Leafers have gone partially back to fossil fuel in the form of PHEVs like the Volt and the Ford Energi series.
More like 2 or 3 years, the length of the most leases. A few were weird like 39 months. I believe there weren't 2 year leases available on the '11, only 3+ year. I don't recall about the '12 anymore.jtrinkle wrote:It seems like people are getting rid of these cars at about 5 or 6 years.
Yep the used car dealer I bought my '13 from in Durham, NC said the same thing. He had picked up 40 off-lease Leafs back in Feb. I got a great deal on mine, but I was pressing hard on him to try to get it down a little more and he finally told me he was selling it to me at a break-even and couldn't justify going any lower. And he said if he wanted to go to auction and replace it it would cost a lot more today than it did when he bought it.cwerdna wrote: But, after I bought mine, it seems used prices have gone up (!). Used car dealer I worked w/said franchise Nissan dealers are snatching up some and they're willing to pay more. And, they have a greater markup. If the much of the supply's gone there (assuming dealer's are able to sell), then a $14,401 + tax to buy your own car vs. Nissan dealer doesn't look so bad.