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Re: Hello from ChargePoint!

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:50 pm
by EVDRIVER
SageBrush wrote:
Evoforce wrote:Hi! My post above was not addressed. When is ChargePoint going to install more Quick Charge/Fast Charge Stations in Arizona?
Easy answer.

When they can do so at a profit.

Correct, it's about the data collection and sale to larger entities not filling charging gaps, that model can't be supported without property owners subsidies in some manner.

Re: Hello from ChargePoint!

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:10 pm
by SageBrush
EVDRIVER wrote: Correct, it's about the data collection and sale to larger entities not filling charging gaps, that model can't be supported without property owners subsidies in some manner.
Incorrect I suspect.

More about volume and ancillary profit streams.

Re: Hello from ChargePoint!

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:01 pm
by Evoforce
SageBrush wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote: Correct, it's about the data collection and sale to larger entities not filling charging gaps, that model can't be supported without property owners subsidies in some manner.
Incorrect I suspect.

More about volume and ancillary profit streams.
I would still like to hear their response.

Re: Hello from ChargePoint!

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:28 pm
by EVDRIVER
Evoforce wrote:
SageBrush wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote: Correct, it's about the data collection and sale to larger entities not filling charging gaps, that model can't be supported without property owners subsidies in some manner.
Incorrect I suspect.

More about volume and ancillary profit streams.
I would still like to hear their response.
Good luck, they are not going to reveal the breakdown of their revenue stream, If they we so concerned about providing coverage for EV drivers it's likely it would not have taken them almost 7 years to post here.

Re: Hello from ChargePoint!

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:56 pm
by Evoforce
Yes it is apparent why they are posting here.

Re: Hello from ChargePoint!

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:58 am
by TeamChargePoint
Evoforce wrote:
I would still like to hear their response.
Hi! I believe my reply got a little lost earlier up thread :) http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 36#p508536

Re: Hello from ChargePoint!

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:16 am
by powersurge
Chargepoint seems to be responding with BS warm fuzzy responses. I agree that they are looking for us to do their legwork. I have heard seen no chargepoint posts to sound like a thoughtful person. I see these people as testing the waters to see where they can start making money. remember, nothing for nothing............

Re: Hello from ChargePoint!

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:38 am
by EVDRIVER
There is little profit in selling hardware or power, the model is to collect and sell data as an ongoing fee to large entities that may need or have value there. On the other hand the more consumers CP has on their network the more data they have to market and sell.

Re: Hello from ChargePoint!

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:42 pm
by TeamChargePoint
powersurge wrote:Chargepoint seems to be responding with BS warm fuzzy responses. I agree that they are looking for us to do their legwork. I have heard seen no chargepoint posts to sound like a thoughtful person. I see these people as testing the waters to see where they can start making money. remember, nothing for nothing............
I'm here to help answer questions about ChargePoint, and to join-in & contribute other topics, too! I also share the feedback we've been getting about what you'd like to see ChargePoint achieve in the future. Although there may not always be new info or recent news, I try to do my best to answer your questions with the information that we're able to share with the community publicly.

I'm thinking I must have missed something specific in one of my responses, but I'd love to help answer your Q's. Can you help me better understand how I can help you?

Re: Hello from ChargePoint!

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:50 pm
by DNAinaGoodWay
TeamChargePoint wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:They make money selling the data they collect on charging use, their goal is not to fill gaps in infrastructure but to get data to sell to companies and other entities where it makes sense or supports the business model.

Hi! We work with businesses to install new stations every day.
Our goal at ChargePoint is to make EV charging work for businesses who have parking spots, and for EV drivers who need charging. Take a look at this video about why Adobe invested in ChargePoint chargers (http://bit.ly/2kU3isi)! I thought you might also enjoy a blog post about Oyster Development Corporation and why they put in ChargePoint chargers, too! (http://bit.ly/2zfiQcF)
OK, here is the issue that limits you: you only install in collaboration with a host entity. You don’t seek out strategic locations and install independently. Especially with higher powered QC which is what we’ll need going forward. Soon, every OEM’s offering will be 60 kWh and up and there’ll be demand that will translate into revenue without your current host model. So, ChargePoint, why not branch out? You have the equipment and knowledge base to make it work. If Tesla can put up multiple units per site, you can cozy up right next to them, or across the road, whatever. As it is, you’re ceding the Non-Tesla QC market to EVgo. Do you really want to be that far behind?