billexium
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Re: New owner of a 2018 Leaf S

Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:48 pm

TheLostPetrol wrote:
billexium wrote: 3. ... But if I did need to charge at my house, I planned to "share" my electric dryer 240 outlet. But the connection on the Leaf charging cable is different than the three pronged dryer outlet. Is there an easy/cheap adapter or work around this issue?
If your dryer circuit is only 30 amps, you would not want to use it, regardless of the availability of an adapter. The LEAF will draw 27.5 amps at 240 volts, and for a long-term (not sure what the criterion is, but charging for an hour or more would surely qualify) draw, you don't want to exceed 80% of the circuit's rating. Neither the LEAF nor Nissan's EVSE can be configured to limit the current to 30*.8=24 amps.
Yikes, I hadn't looked into the 240 outlet situation in depth before purchasing as I plan to do almost all my charging at the office. But the new EV spaces aren't opening until next Monday. I guess I will just keep trickle charging until then! Thanks to everyone for all the feedback.

I will look into the AC timer option. My wife and I will be sharing the car as she really likes the e-pedal feature and has a gas sucking SUV, so the app would have been nice for us both to be able to access whenever. Lesson learned! But so far the AC blows quite cold quickly so it really isn't a huge deal. Hopefully the same holds true tomorrow and Thursday with a high of 109! :o

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Re: New owner of a 2018 Leaf S

Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:51 pm

You can get a 24 amp or lower 240 volt EVSE that will work fine with the dryer outlet. You can also get one that adjusts amperage (manually) in case you ever upgrade the circuit.
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Re: New owner of a 2018 Leaf S

Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:34 am

LeftieBiker wrote:You can get a 24 amp or lower 240 volt EVSE that will work fine with the dryer outlet. You can also get one that adjusts amperage (manually) in case you ever upgrade the circuit.
That is the road I took. FYI; 24 amp EVSEs are cheap and TBT, its a question of finishing a charge at 4 AM over 3 AM... Like I really care? Besides, my panel is garbage so pushing its limits is not really something I am comfortable with.
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billexium
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Re: New owner of a 2018 Leaf S

Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:59 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:You can get a 24 amp or lower 240 volt EVSE that will work fine with the dryer outlet. You can also get one that adjusts amperage (manually) in case you ever upgrade the circuit.
That is the road I took. FYI; 24 amp EVSEs are cheap and TBT, its a question of finishing a charge at 4 AM over 3 AM... Like I really care? Besides, my panel is garbage so pushing its limits is not really something I am comfortable with.
I have an electrician coming on Thursday to give me a quote on putting in a dedicated 240 outlet at 40 amps. My thought is with my breaker panel on the outside of the garage wall it would be a pretty straightforward job. I believe my panel box is "full" so I may need to adjust and have a dual 120 breaker, but that also should not be huge project.

But would it be beneficial instead to invest in a charger and share the dryer outlet? Outside of adjustable power output what additional benefits would a EVSE offer? I can set overnight charging times/schedules on the LEAF itself correct? My utility company offers an EV plan with cheap charging from 11 pm to 5 am. Sharing the outlet wouldn't be an issue with demand as we never use the dryer overnight, but to run the cable to the garage the door would need to be cracked, which would not be great in the AZ summer or for security.

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Re: New owner of a 2018 Leaf S

Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:06 pm

billexium wrote:But would it be beneficial instead to invest in a charger and share the dryer outlet? Outside of adjustable power output what additional benefits would a EVSE offer? I can set overnight charging times/schedules on the LEAF itself correct? My utility company offers an EV plan with cheap charging from 11 pm to 5 am. Sharing the outlet wouldn't be an issue with demand as we never use the dryer overnight, but to run the cable to the garage the door would need to be cracked, which would not be great in the AZ summer or for security.
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Re: New owner of a 2018 Leaf S

Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:53 am

I bought a 2018 Leaf S last year from a dealer who was raving about Nissan Connect. So, I didn't realize that the Model S wasn't compatible until I called tech support to find out why it wouldn't connect.

I really don't understand how a Nissan dealer can be that uninformed. If I worked in sales for a dealer I'd make sure I knew as much as possible about all models and trims so I don't look stupid.

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Re:So, I didn't realize that the Model S wasn't compatible until I called tech support to find out why it wouldn't conne

Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:41 am

I also bought a Model S last year and do fine without Nissan Connect. From what I can tell, I wouldn't have used it anyway.

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Re: New owner of a 2018 Leaf S

Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:09 am

Tortoisehead77 wrote:I bought a 2018 Leaf S last year from a dealer who was raving about Nissan Connect. So, I didn't realize that the Model S wasn't compatible until I called tech support to find out why it wouldn't connect.

I really don't understand how a Nissan dealer can be that uninformed. If I worked in sales for a dealer I'd make sure I knew as much as possible about all models and trims so I don't look stupid.
What, pray tell, were they raving about? Its extra load on the 12 volt battery is a likely reason so many have 12 volt battery issues. Granted likely one of a dozen things wrong including poor battery management on Nissan's part.

Now, if you said the salesman was a raving.... well, yeah I would believe that.

FYI; I park in a garage that never gets cold. Lowest I've seen it was the mid 40's but its generally in the mid 50's all winter long.
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