DARaynor
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New owner 2012 SV & couple of questions

Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:20 am

Picked up a 41k miles SV (with a dent) for $4,800 as our 3rd car with teen sometimes driver. Needs tires, I am scouring the forums. I did not see how much an alignment should cost? Very uneven tread ware so must align after getting probably Bridgestone Ecopia EP422 plus tires from Discount Tire using their price match from Costco...

We plan to mostly charge at home 120v yet our neighborhood restaurant has a free 120v charger! So at least a couple hours per week there lol.

Anyone have any type of solar dash protector type of thing that would trickle charge during the day? Our Leaf will always sit outside.

The front 'engine' compartment is filthy, can I safely pressure wash it?

Last question - how can I find where there are free chargers? I have Googled and get the same several sites that say free but when you arrive it is not free...

Thanks and I am learning a lot here.

Tortoisehead77
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Re: New owner 2012 SV & couple of questions

Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:01 pm

Those solar powered trickle charges are for 12V batteries, not the drive batteries.

I would never pressure wash a motor of any kind.

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Re: New owner 2012 SV & couple of questions

Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:09 pm

It is generally safe to use a car wash nozzle - at a distance - on Leaf motor compartments, but there is always the chance of bad luck.

Ditto on the solar battery charger - forget it. 120 volt charging works, but is slow. Plan on the car usually being plugged in when not in use, and make sure it's on a good, otherwise un-loaded 15 amp circuit.
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Re: New owner 2012 SV & couple of questions

Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:27 pm

Look on android or apple apps for electric car charging apps. Also it's really cheap to charge my leaf, maybe a $1 or $2 a day if I need it and running errands after work (I'm 32-34 miles from work). I roughly use $40 or less on my electric bill at home a month for trickle charging my car at night when I get home, mon-friday. My car is only in the sun on weekends, or it's in a parking structure at work all day. I have read that leaving it in the sun all day every day is bad for the battery, don't quote me look around here.

On tires, I buy mine as cheaply as I can and I run my car on eco mode, or I go through tires too fast, Leafs are super fast off and I can squeal my tires often without it being eco.
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Re: New owner 2012 SV & couple of questions

Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:40 pm

My car is only in the sun on weekends, or it's in a parking structure at work all day. I have read that leaving it in the sun all day every day is bad for the battery, don't quote me look around here.
The sunshine itself isn't the issue, it's the temp of the air around and under the car, and especially the battery temperature. So full sunshine in cool weather is fine, and even full shade isn't good if the air temp is 100+F. Full sun on asphalt in hot weather tends to create a very hot micro-climate under the car, and that heats the battery.
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Re: New owner 2012 SV & couple of questions

Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:10 pm

https://www.plugshare.com/
I use the app version on my phone to find stations.
You get feedback from users so you know which are really free or broken and out of service.
120v will probably work for you, but I upgraded to a 240 level 2 charger so I can charge faster and only when the TOU electricity rate is cheapest at home.
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Re: New owner 2012 SV & couple of questions

Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:13 pm

A few observations from 3 years experience buying a used 2012 Leaf - with a replacement Lizard battery:
1. Solar charging of the "traction" battery requires a substantial PV array. To get about 10 miles/day additional (on a good sunny day) requires a couple of the largest, most efficient XL panels that are each 3-1/2 ft by 6 ft.
2. In the Houston, TX area, almost all the "free" chargers were either not working or not free anymore.
3. Leaf Spy is an absolute necessity for me to estimate trips around Houston. 30-50 mile trips are usually a no-brainer if I plan ahead and charge to 80% charging. 65 miles plus, I need to plan on a charge station stop - even with an overnight 100% charge. Of course, this changes over time with fairly rapid battery degradation.
4. I bought a replacement set of tires over a year ago. Bought the cheapest I could find at Discount tire on their Labor Day special. Quite happy with them. If you search this blog, you will find many good recommendations. IMO, any tire Discount sells is likely Ok for the type of commuter driving I do. Just need to keep the pressure at the max allowable.
5. The dirty front compartment seems unusual. I've looked at many used Leafs and they were all very clean - probably because there is not oily fumes, spills, etc. Maybe a dusty environment? If that is the case, it would seem that a careful spray of simple green/soap solution and light application of rinse would clean it up?
6. Any good alignment shop should resolve that issue - although I've never had any issue with uneven wear.
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Re: New owner 2012 SV & couple of questions

Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:19 pm

The dirty front compartment seems unusual. I've looked at many used Leafs and they were all very clean - probably because there is not oily fumes, spills, etc. Maybe a dusty environment? If that is the case, it would seem that a careful spray of simple green/soap solution and light application of rinse would clean it up?
My 2013 SV, which was always parked outside, got fairly dirty under the hood, and I washed the area at the car wash a couple of times a year. No problems.
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Re: New owner 2012 SV & couple of questions

Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:22 am

Congratulations on becoming an EV owner...you may be driving the car more than you think.

I would suggest NOT pressure washing the front compartment...too much to potentially go wrong. That said a more gentle wash such as done by detail shops with limited amounts of liquid is fine...I do it probably annually using a spray bottle and garden hose to rinse. I set the hose to a slow small flow, just enough to do the rinse job. Needless to say, don’t tug on any orange wiring.
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Re: New owner 2012 SV & couple of questions

Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:00 am

At the risk of beating a dead horse, I would not wash or introduce water into the "engine" compartment in any way. There's just too much electrical equipment (mine still looks about as clean as it did when new).
You can get (free) alignment checks at places like NTB.
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