laxutraly
Posts: 1
Joined: Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:24 pm
Delivery Date: 30 Nov 1990
Leaf Number: 468213
Contact: Website Facebook

Future Leaf owner?

Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:26 pm

Hello everyone,

I'm Laxu, 37, from Brussels in Belgium, and I'm on the market for an electric car, as I think it would be perfect for the urban trips that make up most of my driving time.
The Nissan Leaf is one of the potential candidates, so I've decided to create an account here in order to read what you guys are thinking about your cars, what the little tricks to keep it rolling are, and how to maintain it in general. I'm lurking/participating on a couple of other electric car-related forums as well, because I'd like to buy the car in spring (after the yearly taxes) and I have the time to read up and make my choice.

I hope that you guys will manage to "sell" me the Leaf!

Have a nice day.

Bouldergramp
Posts: 84
Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:36 am
Delivery Date: 15 Oct 2018
Leaf Number: 317621
Location: COLORADO

Re: Future Leaf owner?

Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:55 am

Here is a short answer from an elderly, retired, electrical engineer:

My wife hated my Kia Soul (2010 Exclaim) and I thought an electric car would be interesting so I traded it in on a new 2018 Leaf S (Charge Package, All Weather Package, Protection Package, Carpeted floor mat and cargo area mat). After the power company rebates, Nissan deals, trade in, federal and state tax credits, it cost me about $12,000. I would not have paid much more for the car. My wife loves it. I think it is a very nice car but it doesn't look as good as the Kia Soul.
I have a 40 amp, 240V electrical outlet in the garage where the car is kept. I charge it once a week at night...full charge.
I drive it occasionally and use E-pedal. My wife drives it most of the time and uses the default D mode.
We have had it one year and paid for tire rotation...that is it! The Nissan dealer is only a few miles from my home.
Last edited by Bouldergramp on Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:18 am, edited 8 times in total.

User avatar
Nubo
Posts: 5838
Joined: Fri May 28, 2010 11:01 am
Delivery Date: 31 Oct 2014
Location: Vallejo, CA

Re: Future Leaf owner?

Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:23 pm

I don't mean to be offensive, but honestly people who need to be spoon-fed aren't good candidates for EV ownership at this stage of product evolution.

There is a lot of great information already on the forum. Do some time reading and researching and then make an informed decision.

Regards.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

Bouldergramp
Posts: 84
Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:36 am
Delivery Date: 15 Oct 2018
Leaf Number: 317621
Location: COLORADO

Re: Future Leaf owner?

Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:39 pm

Nubo wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:23 pm
I don't mean to be offensive, but honestly people who need to be spoon-fed aren't good candidates for EV ownership at this stage of product evolution.

There is a lot of great information already on the forum. Do some time reading and researching and then make an informed decision.

Regards.
It is easier to ask a question than pour through hundreds of relatively unorganized posts, most of which discuss older model year Leafs.

User avatar
Nubo
Posts: 5838
Joined: Fri May 28, 2010 11:01 am
Delivery Date: 31 Oct 2014
Location: Vallejo, CA

Re: Future Leaf owner?

Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:48 pm

Bouldergramp wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:39 pm
Nubo wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:23 pm
I don't mean to be offensive, but honestly people who need to be spoon-fed aren't good candidates for EV ownership at this stage of product evolution.

There is a lot of great information already on the forum. Do some time reading and researching and then make an informed decision.

Regards.
It is easier to ask a question than pour through hundreds of relatively unorganized posts...
It surely is.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

Titanium48
Posts: 148
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:33 am
Delivery Date: 25 Jan 2019
Location: Edmonton, AB

Re: Future Leaf owner?

Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:39 pm

Bouldergramp wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:55 am
I think it is a very nice car but it doesn't look as good as the Kia Soul.
The first generation Leaf was kind of goofy looking, but so is the Kia Soul. Appearance wise, I'd take the 2018-19 Leaf over either of them.
2016 SL

LeftieBiker
Moderator
Posts: 16113
Joined: Wed May 22, 2013 3:17 am
Delivery Date: 30 Apr 2018
Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: Future Leaf owner?

Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:52 pm

Someone (Not It!!!) should write a FAQ-like thing listing the pros and cons of leasing or buying a Leaf. I did one on buying vs leasing, but that isn't really what's needed here. The super-short version:

PROS:


* The Leaf is very comfortable, with many standard and available features.

* The 2018+ Leaf is quite "normal" looking, as opposed to the polarizing looks of the Gen 1/1.5.

* Between the 24kwh, 30kwh, 40kwh and 62kwh versions, there is a Leaf suitable for most driving needs.

* The 40 and 62kwh Leaf 2 have very good acceleration. Not Tesla-like, but quite adequate. The Gen I Leaf has very good acceleration up to about 40MPH.


CONS:


* The Leaf has no thermal management for the battery, other than a small battery warmer that only keeps the battery from damage in frigid weather.

* The 2018+ Leafs are not good cars for 200+ mile trips, as they don't quick charge well or fast.

* The Leaf has handling that is more Camry-like than Tesla-like.

* Earlier Leafs have batteries that degrade either quickly or at least noticeably. The 40kwh Leaf degrades about 5-8% a year. The 62kwh Leaf remains an unknown quantity in this regard.




Feel free to add to this list.
Scarlet Ember 2018 Leaf SL W/ Pro Pilot
2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, & 3 EZIP E-bicycles.
BAFX OBDII Dongle
PLEASE don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

Oilpan4
Posts: 1809
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:51 pm
Delivery Date: 10 May 2018
Leaf Number: 004270

Re: Future Leaf owner?

Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:14 pm

You are in the best possible location to have one if you were to need after market support.
"THE ABOVE POST CONTAINS MISLEADING AND INACCURATE INFORMATION. PLEASE CONSIDER IT OPINION, NOT FACT". -someone who I offended and is unable to produce the facts in question.

dmacarthur
Posts: 209
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:00 pm
Delivery Date: 03 Jul 2018
Leaf Number: 306556
Location: Vermont

Re: Future Leaf owner?

Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:51 am

Not sure I agree with this Con:

* The 2018+ Leafs are not good cars for 200+ mile trips, as they don't quick charge well or fast.

We travel often enough and charge as we go, the Leaf Plus seems to take a good chademo charge to 80 % in the time it takes to have coffee and a bite, or for free at Nissan dealers (where we can ogle the massive land yachts that people are shopping for, all boasting mid-twenties MPG). We have seen 100 amps, mostly less but still acceptable.
2015 Leaf sold
2019 Leaf Plus S as of 9/30/19

LeftieBiker
Moderator
Posts: 16113
Joined: Wed May 22, 2013 3:17 am
Delivery Date: 30 Apr 2018
Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: Future Leaf owner?

Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:12 am

dmacarthur wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:51 am
Not sure I agree with this Con:

* The 2018+ Leafs are not good cars for 200+ mile trips, as they don't quick charge well or fast.

We travel often enough and charge as we go, the Leaf Plus seems to take a good chademo charge to 80 % in the time it takes to have coffee and a bite, or for free at Nissan dealers (where we can ogle the massive land yachts that people are shopping for, all boasting mid-twenties MPG). We have seen 100 amps, mostly less but still acceptable.
Have you fast charged in warmer weather?
Scarlet Ember 2018 Leaf SL W/ Pro Pilot
2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, & 3 EZIP E-bicycles.
BAFX OBDII Dongle
PLEASE don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

Return to “New Members & Newbie Questions”