Oilpan4
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Re: Backup camera quality

Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:54 pm

I'm going to say that's substantially worse than my 2011 backup camera image.
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Re: Backup camera quality

Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:10 am

SBCLeaf wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:50 pm
UPDATE - Dealership just called back to say they're still trying to diagnose the issue and they need to keep the car. "No rental car for you."

So three days into owning a Nissan it's already been in the shop for longer than all of my Toyotas for the last 17 years put together.
While none of my Leaf issues were really major and required more than a day in the shop, I'd totally agree with your last paragraph...... hence my next new vehicle will be another Toyota :)
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SBCLeaf
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Re: Backup camera quality

Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:28 am

jjeff wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:10 am
While none of my Leaf issues were really major and required more than a day in the shop, I'd totally agree with your last paragraph...... hence my next new vehicle will be another Toyota :)
If, and only if, this is the last problem I have I will chalk it up to a fluke. But if I have any more problems I will probably ditch the car and go back to Toyota.
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Re: Backup camera quality

Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:58 am

Does Toyota even have a BEV model for the US market?
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Re: Backup camera quality

Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:18 am

alozzy wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:58 am
Does Toyota even have a BEV model for the US market?
No. That's why I bought the Leaf, but if I have to trade never having a single problem for BEV Im going back to plug-in hybrid.
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alozzy
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Re: Backup camera quality

Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:29 am

Hopefully Toyota makes some BEVs available soon. I guess COVID delayed the BEV initiative mentioned here?

https://insideevs.com/news/353600/toyot ... obal-bevs/
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Re: Backup camera quality

Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:00 am

SBCLeaf wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:31 am
My backup camera pictures is extremely blurry. At first I thought there might be a protective plastic over the lens, but there isn't. The lens is spotless, but the picture looks like there's Vaseline smeared on the lens. Is this normal?
No. Should have a clear picture albeit a bit distorted due to the fish eye like effect which is good as it allows you to see side traffic as well. My only complaint is its randomly slow at times. I have frequently backed up several feet before it has come on. Granted its areas I know are clear but other times I have to wait for it and yeah, its like 3 seconds but I start to wonder after the .3 seconds I am willing to accept...
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Re: Backup camera quality

Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:05 am

Dealership just called and said that Nissan's position is that it's normal operation. They compared it to another 2020 Leaf on the premises which has the same blurry camera, so therefor they cannot do anything about it.

I guess I'm going to have to file a complaint with NHTSA, because not being able to discern whether an object in your camera is a maybe just a box in the driveway or a small child is a definite safety hazard.
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SBCLeaf
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Re: Backup camera quality

Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:28 am

Before someone asks, I asked the dealership how it compares to other Nissan models. They told me that comparison is irrelevant because other model cameras aren't compatible.
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Re: Backup camera quality

Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:51 pm

SBCLeaf wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:05 am
Dealership just called and said that Nissan's position is that it's normal operation. They compared it to another 2020 Leaf on the premises which has the same blurry camera, so therefor they cannot do anything about it.

I guess I'm going to have to file a complaint with NHTSA, because not being able to discern whether an object in your camera is a maybe just a box in the driveway or a small child is a definite safety hazard.
I don't have a gen 2 Leaf but I can tell you the picture quality of GM Surround Vision on my '19 Bolt Premier is awful compared to my '13 Leaf's Around View Monitor. No, it's not just my car. I've test driven another '19 and also rented a '17 Bolt Premier with it. It's the same.

The whole system got upgraded to "HD" cameras on '20 Bolts along w/added functionality. I don't have such a sign so I can't really compare.

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