johnnybegoode
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I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:21 am

I paid $5000 for this.
Did I get ripped off or was it a good buy?
2012 Nissan Leaf SV.
99500 Mileage

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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:14 am

Looks pretty good for a 2012. Guessing it is on its 2nd battery.
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:36 am

I wonder why LeafSpy reports ZERO on the odometer.
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cwerdna
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:59 am

^^^
Good catch. OP, do you know the location history of this car (e.g. via Carfax and/or Autocheck)?

Assuming there wasn't an odometer rollback or it wasn't a battery reset victim but the car's on its 2nd main battery, the deal is so-so. '12 SV has no CHAdeMO and doesn't have many features that a '13 SV would or could have (e.g. CHAdeMO, hybrid heat pump heater, around view monitor, Bose stereo).

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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:03 pm

We need to know where the OP is located, and the climate there. Personally, I'm amazed that the car can communicate with Nissan's servers. A TCM update that works, on a 2012! The battery cells look ok, anyway.
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johnnybegoode
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:27 pm

Thank you, guys!

I'm in Southern California. It has DC fast charge and solar. I think the 1st owner opt for everything.
I bought this car from someone on CL without Carfax and Autocheck.

After getting insurance for the car.
My free Geico Carfax Maintainance shows that the Battery Pack is replaced on 6/10/16 at 45,705mi.

I believe the next 2 owners put another 50,000mi on it before me.
I am starting to doubt that the battery's capacity is 11 bars.
After 50,000mi, could it be missing only missing one bar?

Yes, why is the Odo showing 0 on Leaf Spy?
"My Leaf" App could not get the daily and monthly statistics too.
How to fix this?
Thank you!


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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:30 pm

Since the replacement battery is the most excellent "Lizard" pack, it is believable that it has 11 bars. Heating, along with time, is what counts most towards degradation with the Lizards. Still, keep an eye on the LeafSpy readings for a month. Do you have the most recent version of the app?
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cwerdna
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:45 pm

johnnybegoode wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:27 pm
I'm in Southern California. It has DC fast charge and solar. I think the 1st owner opt for everything.
I bought this car from someone on CL without Carfax and Autocheck.
If it has the DC fast charge inlet and solar panel on the rear spoiler, it's not an SV. It's an SL. Only SL trims have the solar panel. On '12, you couldn't get the CHAdeMO Inlet w/o going to SL.
johnnybegoode wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:27 pm
After getting insurance for the car.
My free Geico Carfax Maintainance shows that the Battery Pack is replaced on 6/10/16 at 45,705mi.

I believe the next 2 owners put another 50,000mi on it before me.
I am starting to doubt that the battery's capacity is 11 bars.
After 50,000mi, could it be missing only missing one bar?
It's not the mileage that counts, unless it's excessive.

https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... ld#p551301 hit 100K miles w/all 12 bars due to their mild climate and better chemistry + having to live thru 1 less hot summer.

https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... st#p496269 points to a 4 bar loser in Phoenix at https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 95#p473995. He lost his 4th bar on 8/23/2016.

He has the same build month as me. My 5/2013 built '13 Leaf (same month as his) in a milder climate is still at 11 bars at 68K miles. My 1st bar went away in Nov 2017.
johnnybegoode wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:27 pm
Something that doesn't add up to me is that inside the car, it is still showing 11bars - 78mi range in Drive mode
and 83mi range in ECO mode while ConnectEV shows 66 and 78.
The GOM is useless. Ignore it.
johnnybegoode wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:27 pm
Do you think there are some BMS reset hack to make it shows 11 bars to help the seller sell the car?
It's possible. Only way to know is to see if your car rapidly loses additional capacity bars over the next few months.

Example time frame of a reset victim:
http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com/2014/11 ... -read.html
http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com/2014/12 ... olved.html

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johnnybegoode
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:01 pm

All the Apps are the latest.
"Leaf Spy" can't read the odometer
"My Leaf" can't read the daily and monthly statistic and cannot locate car.
Do you think that it has to be something I have to do inside the car?
Maybe doing something on the "Trip Computer"?

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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:26 pm

The odometer issue may (or may not) be related to the 99k mile reading. As I've mentioned, the car's original telematics unit is obsolete, and must have been replaced, to communicate with Nissan's servers. The replacement units are glitchy, and can even kill the 12 volt accessory battery, by not shutting down properly when the car is off.
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