GerryAZ
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:58 am

SageBrush wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:35 am
GerryAZ wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:19 pm
The OK--none for each line shows that LEAF Spy was able to communicate with each controller.
But does not say whether a DTC is present ?
I'm confused by the big 16
LEAF Spy communicated with 16 control modules. All 16 were OK and reporting no stored DTC's.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015; traded 8/10/2019 at 82,436 miles
White LEAF 2019 SL Plus purchased 8/10/2019

johnnybegoode
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Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:56 am
Delivery Date: 10 Jan 2021
Leaf Number: 015508

Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:09 pm

At full charge the battery only holds
16kWh out of a 24kWh pack.
Capacity does show 11 bars on GOM.
There is no way this car has a range of over 70+ miles
that the seller claimed.
He probably has to QC on the way to deliver the car.

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SageBrush
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:22 pm

johnnybegoode wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:09 pm
At full charge the battery only holds
16kWh out of a 24kWh pack.
Capacity does show 11 bars on GOM.
There is no way this car has a range of over 70+ miles
If highways are avoided, it is not difficult to manage 5 miles/kWh on a nice day
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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cwerdna
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:54 pm

I wouldn't read too much into the "16" kWh that Leaf Spy claims. See viewtopic.php?p=562501#p562501.

Also, 24 kWh cars only had 21 to 22ish kWh user accessible when new.

Does the car reach about 207 gids on a full charge? The last time I charged my 11 bar '13 Leaf (SOH at 79.xx%) to full, it reached about low 230ish gids on a full charge.

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Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

johnnybegoode
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Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:56 am
Delivery Date: 10 Jan 2021
Leaf Number: 015508

Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:39 pm

That 207 was full charge. Max I've seen is 217

johnnybegoode
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:29 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:22 pm
johnnybegoode wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:09 pm
At full charge the battery only holds
16kWh out of a 24kWh pack.
Capacity does show 11 bars on GOM.
There is no way this car has a range of over 70+ miles
If highways are avoided, it is not difficult to manage 5 miles/kWh on a nice day
I traveled around 11.2 miles very slowly trying not to speed over 35 miles/h.
Where do you read the miles/kWh?
On the Leaf, it says 4.6 but on Leaf Spy Pro, it reads 3.6 (3.4).
Are 11.2 miles good enough to give an estimate or do I have to travel further?

On a side note, should I be worried that efficiency is off the chart?
266wH/mile

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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:06 pm

johnnybegoode wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:29 pm
I traveled around 11.2 miles very slowly trying not to speed over 35 miles/h.
Where do you read the miles/kWh?
On the Leaf, it says 4.6 but on Leaf Spy Pro, it reads 3.6 (3.4).
Are 11.2 miles good enough to give an estimate or do I have to travel further?
I read from the car meter.
Check out the LeafSpy manual to learn what the 3.6 (3.4) refers to
The longer the trip the better, but even more important is A > B > A
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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DaveinOlyWA
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Leaf Number: 319862
Location: Olympia, WA
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Re: I paid $5000 for this.

Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:06 am

johnnybegoode wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:09 pm
At full charge the battery only holds
16kWh out of a 24kWh pack.
Capacity does show 11 bars on GOM.
There is no way this car has a range of over 70+ miles
that the seller claimed.
He probably has to QC on the way to deliver the car.

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change your range estimate to 1%. Right now its on LBW which is like 16.6 % or 1/6th your capacity. Its all but useless on that setting. }

It is EASILY conceivable you could get 70 miles in Summer. Your kwh available figure? I would take that minus one or 15 kwh and figure your miles/kwh factor. At 4.5 miles/kwh, you have 67.5 miles. 4.5 is generally easy to hit (if you want to)
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 91.51% SOH
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