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Re: Promoting Electric Vehicles Act of 2010

Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:07 pm

evnow wrote:Merged.

There is no problem getting higher subsidy for EVs. Both parties support it. Afterall many auto manufacturers are in south states and the senators from there will support it. No point imagining Republican opposition ... checkout the senate committee vote on this.

Also oil companies are fine with EV subsidies. They are supporting the legislation.
I hope you're correct on this.
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Re: Promoting Electric Vehicles Act of 2010

Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:56 am

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article ... REPSSPORTS
Merkley's electric car bill in slow lane Senator's effort has some key Republican backing but isn't a priority for lame-duck Congress

Electric vehicles have offered a rare patch of common ground for Republicans and Democrats this year. Tennessee Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander co-sponsored the original Electric Vehicle Deployment Act with Merkley and Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D. The bill passed the Senate's energy committee with a bipartisan 19-4 vote in July. And a few weeks later, McConnell said Republicans could work with the White House on electric vehicle development.
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Re: Promoting Electric Vehicles Act of 2010

Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:17 am

So when could this increase take effect? For 2011 purchases only perhaps?

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Re: Promoting Electric Vehicles Act of 2010

Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:58 am

EVDRIVER wrote:So when could this increase take effect? For 2011 purchases only perhaps?
The current bill on the senate floor proposed by Reid doesn't have these provisions. Reid is a CNG backer, not as much an EV backer. So it all depends on how vigorously auto majors and senators lobby to include these provisions in the Reid Energy bill. If that passes without these provisions, it will be a while before the senate will take up these again ...
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Re: Promoting Electric Vehicles Act of 2010

Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:59 pm

Its nice to see common ground. I can't think of anyone that actually enjoys paying $5.00 for a gallon of gas and then have that money go to people that want to destroy America. I would imagine that if they did increase the incentive it would be for EV's bought after "such and such a date". Its really nice to see money being invested in freeing Americans from arab oil. Go Team USA!!! :!:
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Re: Congress to raise ev credit?

Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:27 pm

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sjfotos wrote:Let's not get too flame ridden here. Just remember that whatever your differences are, there are a ton of Chinese happy to see you exacerbate them.
Could you explain the Chinese references? I'm not quite getting them.

The ruling members of the People's Republic of China are more than happy to see intramural disputes tie up American resources and time. Time devoted to these political topics, with huge doses of acrimony, is a net productivity drag on their major rival.
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Re: Congress to raise ev credit?

Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:37 pm

sjfotos wrote:
JPVLeaf wrote:
sjfotos wrote:Let's not get too flame ridden here. Just remember that whatever your differences are, there are a ton of Chinese happy to see you exacerbate them.
Could you explain the Chinese references? I'm not quite getting them.

The ruling members of the People's Republic of China are more than happy to see intramural disputes tie up American resources and time. Time devoted to these political topics, with huge doses of acrimony, is a net productivity drag on their major rival.
I'd believe that. We did the same thing to the Soviets with "Star Wars". Ronald Regan made them spend their way into an economic collapse. If someone turned the tables on us, (which I kinda think 'they' are doing) then it's our own damn fault.
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Re: Congress to raise ev credit?

Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:40 am

TRONZ wrote: Excuse me. Actually the CA Economy would have a surplus if we did not pay for the majority of "Red" states. :arrow: Simple Fact -76% of "Red" states SPEND more money than they collect in Federal Taxes! The worst "Red" state is North Dakota which spends $2.03 for each Federal tax dollar it collects, Mississippi spends $1.84, Alaska spends $1.82... it goes on and on... :!: CA only SPENDS .81 cents of each dollar it collect from us fine residents. The other .19 cents per dollar from the fifth largest economy in the world is then mostly given to "Tea Party States". I am thinking CA should stop doing this!!! Congratulations however, Oregon and Florida spend $1.00 for each dollar they collect. These two states are not exactly saving anything but also NOT asking CA for handouts.
I assume you are getting new numbers from somewhere, but this is the last list I could come up with:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/266.html

In general, we get it worse here in the NYC Metro area than in California. Much of the problem is the Senate. The Senate gives equal power to all states, regardless of population. Combined with rules that enable obstructionism, a lot of deals are cut with "conservative" senators from smaller states that are always more than happy with Federal spending when it goes to their state. Restricting the use of the filibuster would be a good first step.

If there was some way to pass a "state contribution budget balancing" rule that limits funding for new federal projects in states where they receive more in tax revenue than they pay, it would help all of us on the coasts. Even if you could just bring it up for debate and make red-states that get more than the pay have to defend themselves publically, it would potentially help populous states that pay more than they receive get funded...which is where the greatest potential for EV adoption is.

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Re: Congress to raise ev credit?

Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:32 am

sjfotos wrote:The ruling members of the People's Republic of China are more than happy to see intramural disputes tie up American resources and time. Time devoted to these political topics, with huge doses of acrimony, is a net productivity drag on their major rival.
I'd guess it is the perspective of an outsider - with no real insight into China politics. I'm sure China ruling members don't give a damn about political squabbles here. They don't even look at US as a rival except for resource consumption.
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Re: Congress to raise ev credit?

Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:44 am

lne937s wrote:I assume you are getting new numbers from somewhere, but this is the last list I could come up with:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/266.html

In general, we get it worse here in the NYC Metro area than in California.
Depends on how things are calculated. CA & NY tend to "contribute" a lot to federal kitty because a large number of companies are headquartered there. Ofcourse the companies get their money from all over the country.

Federal spening includes money to all the DOD bases - hardly handouts/subsidies to those states, even though it helps the local economy.

BTW, this has nothing to do with the topic. So I'll likely move the posts.

Otherwise - back to topic.
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