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Volt is the most connected car on the planet: True or False?

Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:22 am

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The Chevy Volt is perhaps the most connected car on the planet. I can’t think of another even under development that offers such a variety of online services including the Nissan Leaf.
True or False ?

I think Nissan has not marketing all the connected features of Leaf - as much as GM has.
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Re: Volt is the most connected car on the planet: True or False?

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Re: Volt is the most connected car on the planet: True or False?

Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:32 pm

smkettner wrote:Until connectivity is available through existing (no extra suscription) wifi I do not consider them connected at all.
So they all get a FALSE from me until I hear otherwise.
Off topic. I'm only looking at comparisons.
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Re: Volt is the most connected car on the planet: True or False?

Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:23 pm

Yes, the Volt is "connected" in ways that the LEAF is not.

For one, it is conected to the gas station.
Second, it is conected to the government (and taxpayer).
There would be no Volt except for the government "rescue" of GM.
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Re: Volt is the most connected car on the planet: True or False?

Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:01 pm

Ah, but the Volt is never connected to DC Quick Charge. ;)

Come on, guys, let's hear something about GM OnStar vs. Nissan CarWings. Isn't that what this thread is supposed to be about? (I have nothing to contribute, since I have never used either, never expected before now to use either, and don't even have a navigation gadget in my car.)
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:34 pm

Nissan's global website had a little bit on CARWINGS, but not much. There was also this technical note PDF.

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:55 pm

planet4ever wrote:Come on, guys, let's hear something about GM OnStar vs. Nissan CarWings. Isn't that what this thread is supposed to be about? (I have nothing to contribute, since I have never used either, never expected before now to use either, and don't even have a navigation gadget in my car.)
I too am unfamiliar with both services, but that won't stop me from speculating.

I have a nav system in my 2005 car which works very well, except that a map update (on DVD) costs more than an entire new handheld GPS unit - which might come with lifetime free updates from the Internet. Also the new GPS units have real time traffic data which they can use to reroute you around traffic jams to save time. I read that the Leaf will reroute you around traffic jams to save kWh. Some of the traffic services require a paid subscription, and some are free and supported by fairly non-intrusive advertisements.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-3430_7-6562611.html

Here's an old article on Carwings, which indicates it is responsible for navigation, audio system, hands-free phone, etc.

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/rr-skin ... eased.html

I'm not sure about that video player feature. That's just asking for crashes and lawsuits if they leave that in.
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Re: Volt is the most connected car on the planet: True or False?

Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:00 pm

1. Presumably, a major feature of CARWINGS is that it can provide
user-experienced traffic conditions. However, without many users,
will that feature be "informed" enough to be useful?

Will this "traffic" feature even be enabled in the USA?
Or, will all the "real-time" trafic information come via an XM subscription?

Where does the Volt's NAV system get its trafic info?

2. We have been lead to believe that CARWINGS will update our LEAF's
data on locations for e-fuel stations. Hopefully it will also tell us how
many and what kid of charging-spots are there, if they are working,
and perhaps even if they are occupied and how long they might be occupied.

Sure, if an L2 station is "busy" (conected to a car and charging), there might
not be any way to tell how long the car will remain there. If the car has finished
charging (but still connected), there is no way to tell how long the "spot" will remain
occupied. And, if the spot's charger is not connected, there might not be any way
to tell if some vehicle is parked there.

It is not clear how the CARWINGS system will "learn" about charge-stations.

What does the Volt system do?

3. How does one call for Roadside Service?
How in an area where the AT&T data service does not "connect"?

4. Monitoring Charging Status?

How does the Volt do that?
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Re: Volt is the most connected car on the planet: True or False?

Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:00 pm

garygid wrote:Or, will all the "real-time" trafic information come via an XM subscription?
Looks like built-in cellular.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=877

http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric- ... t/features

Cost is $28-42 per year in Japan.

http://www.telematicsupdate.com/articles/carwings.pdf
garygid wrote:Sure, if an L2 station is "busy" (conected to a car and charging), there might not be any way to tell how long the car will remain there. If the car has finished charging (but still connected), there is no way to tell how long the "spot" will remain occupied. And, if the spot's charger is not connected, there might not be any way to tell if some vehicle is parked there.
The charger ought to know whether it is currently being used by a 12 kWh Prius with battery 81% charged, or a Leaf with battery 19% charged, and project remaining time accordingly. True, it can't tell you if the charging space is occupied by a Hummer. More likely the Hummer is parked diagonally across two charging spaces.
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Re: Volt is the most connected car on the planet: True or False?

Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:12 pm

The L2 EVSE has no way of knowing what the car's battery capacity or state of charge is.
It can only tell if the car is connected, and if the car wants power ON, or OFF.
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