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Hybrids and EVs Will Remain Small Potatoes

Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:38 am

The report finds a large migration to hybrids and EVs will require one or more of the following scenarios: A significant increase in petroleum prices, a significant reduction in the cost of the technology and coordinated government policies to promote adoption of such vehicles. “Based on currently available information,” J.D. Power says it doesn’t expect those things to happen.

“We don’t anticipate a mass migration to green vehicles in the coming decade,” John Humphrey, senior VP of automotive operations, said in a statement.

There are some other issues.


J.D. Power found consumers have several concerns about hybrids and battery electrics, including:

They don’t like how the cars look.
They worry about the reliability of the technology.
They’re dissatisfied with the power and performance of the vehicles.
They’re concerned by the range and the time needed to recharge electric vehicles. :idea:

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Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:46 am

supercharged wrote:Chevron (NYSE:CVX) said Thursday it will invest $7.5 billion to develop two of the Gulf of Mexico’s largest unexploited oil fields. Chevron’s decision signals that oil companies are still willing to stake their future on the deep waters of the Gulf’s outer reaches :D
How much production to they expect. Le tme guess, it will be less than the depletion in their existing fields.
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Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:49 am

Can't disagree about the looks part. Why do eco cars have to be so damn homely?
(Oh, hi Roadster, no I'm not talking to you.)

I don't understand why the Leaf couldn't be more stylish, without the catfish-mouth and saggy-diaper rear end. It doesn't need a grill, has no tailpipe or muffler to work around.. it should have had the cleanest lines of any car ever. <sigh>

Here's hoping for the Inifniti EV to set this straight! Hopefully right around the end of a 3-year lease. :)

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Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:55 am

GroundLoop wrote:Can't disagree about the looks part. Why do eco cars have to be so damn homely?
I think this is a taste thing. In Japan and Europe they like the car - not so much in the US.
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Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:22 am

[quote="GroundLoop"]Can't disagree about the looks part. Why do eco cars have to be so damn homely?
(Oh, hi Roadster, no I'm not talking to you.)

I don't understand why the Leaf couldn't be more stylish, without the catfish-mouth and saggy-diaper rear end. It doesn't need a grill, has no tailpipe or muffler to work around.. it should have had the cleanest lines of any car ever. <sigh>

Here's hoping for the Inifniti EV to set this straight! Hopefully right around the end of a 3-year lease. :)[/quote
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Ouch-harsh :|

Actually, I think the Leaf grows on the viewer as seen in person. The photos really don't do it justice.

As an early adapter of a Hybrid in 2000, I saw a leap in public acceptance after the following 1-2 years after my purchase.

I predict the Leaf will take off in 6-12 months after the public sees them on the road and real world numbers and experience are voiced.
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Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:54 am

I can tell you that in San Diego the car is/will be a Huge Hit. As soon as apartment complexes put in charging stations, game over.
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Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:36 pm

Welcome to the forum Iceman (created 8:56, 1 post)/Supercharged(created 9:13 for first post) /?/?... YOU may feel free to polish the brass on the Titanic all YOU want :twisted:


Alaska Oil Reserves Estimate REDUCED by 90% - USGS

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/27/alaska ... index.html


German Military Report on Peak Oil

http://scienceblogs.com/casaubonsbook/2 ... report.php


U.S. Military Plan; GET OFF OIL BY 2040!!! - CNAS

http://in.reuters.com/article/idIN371362583020101018


Big Oil can invest and A single troll can dis-inform all he wants. Truth has a funny way of always winning out in the end! FACT IS, people NOW will be selecting cars based on Dollar-Per-Mile. GAME OVER :!:
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Re: Hybrids and EVs Will Remain Small Potatoes

Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:46 pm

supercharged wrote: J.D. Power found consumers have several concerns about hybrids and battery electrics, including:

They don’t like how the cars look.
They worry about the reliability of the technology.
They’re dissatisfied with the power and performance of the vehicles.
They’re concerned by the range and the time needed to recharge electric vehicles. :idea:
1) There is absolutely no reason for why EVs should look different to fossil vehicles.

2, 3 and 4) It is early days. The rate development is going, this will be solved very soon. The ONLY item now is the battery pack, and it is exchangable.

An electric engine is far superior to a fossil engine, both in cost and reliability.
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Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:52 pm

gasmiser1 wrote:Can't disagree about the looks part. Why do eco cars have to be so damn homely?
What you want is an EV Hummer? :mrgreen:
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Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:05 pm

TRONZ wrote:Welcome to the forum Iceman (created 8:56, 1 post)/Supercharged(created 9:13 for first post) /?/?... YOU may feel free to polish the brass on the Titanic all YOU want :twisted:
Good call. They are posting from the same IP.
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