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Re: To EV or not to EV: The China question

Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:27 pm

777,000 Plug-In Electric Vehicles Were Sold in China in 2017, Including 600,000 Cars
https://insideevs.com/777000-plug-in-ve ... 0000-cars/
Plug-in passenger car sales amounted to 468,000 BEVs and 111,000 PHEVs – 579,000 total. The rest were commercial vehicles.
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In comparison, in the US for 2017 per http://www.hybridcars.com/december-2017-dashboard/, PHEV sales were just shy of 90K and BEV sales were just shy of 104.5K.

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Re: To EV or not to EV: The China question

Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:08 pm

OT: Someone in a Bolt FB group posted
"60 Minutes tomorrow night (CBS, Sunday, 7 p.m.) features a segment on China’s electric car industry."

I found a 33 second teaser/preview at https://preview.msn.com/en-us/video/new ... vp-BBTXs8t.

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Re: To EV or not to EV: The China question

Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:59 am

^^^
Piece was decent but obviously meant for a layperson. Looks like it's available for free at https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electric-c ... 0-minutes/. I'm guessing it'll end up behind a CBS paywall after a few weeks.

Some interesting pieces included Nio's charging trucks (coming up and DC FCing your Nio), the battery swapping (yes, Better Place tried this and imploded and yes Tesla had 1 station but closed that down) and the EV monitoring center they showed. That last part was interesting but also scary from Big Brotherish POV.
In Shanghai, China has built the largest EV database in the world.

Holly Williams: This is a map of all the electric cars in Shanghai?

Ding Xiaohua: Yeah.

Ding Xiaohua is deputy manager of the Shanghai Electric Vehicle Data Center, which collects millions of bits of information every day on nearly 200,000 electric cars on this city's streets.

Holly Williams: So let's find a Tesla.

Ding Xiaohua: So this is only Tesla brands.

Holly Williams: These are all Teslas?

Ding Xiaohua: Yeah. All Teslas.

Inside every electric vehicle in the city is a black box, automatically transmitting data to the center every 30 seconds.

Ding Xiaohua: For example, the speeds, the mileage, the battery temperature.

Holly Williams: And does that help the government plan for the future?

Ding Xiaohua: Yes, public charging points, how many public charging points? And where it is best place for the public charger.

There is nothing like this in the U.S. or anywhere else. China is paving the way for the electric cars of the 21st century.
The overtime piece, currently at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhpQ6TEGpZ8 talked about Nio's (owner only) "club houses". Interesting... seems like Tesla's partway there w/that.

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Re: To EV or not to EV: The China question

Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:37 pm

Chinese electric car maker BYD's first-quarter profit up 632 percent, sees first-half profit up
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese- ... 52338.html

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Re: To EV or not to EV: The China question

Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:28 am

I posted this over at viewtopic.php?f=12&t=30405, a thread that has been crickets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdQmiIt ... dex=9&t=0s was an 8.5 minute segment on EVs in China. They did mention that Shenzhen's the world's first city to rely only on electric buses. They said that city operates more electric buses than every city outside of China combined.

At 5:05 or so, they talk about BYD "greening" the city's taxi fleet.

They show this massive (LOTS of bays) charging area, presumably for taxis and the massive line. They said that almost all of the city's 22K cabs are electric. They talked to a taxi driver who said that he sometimes had to wait in line. A few months back, he waited an hour in line to charge and another 2 hours to charge.

After doing some Googling to see if I could find some pics, I found https://thedriven.io/2019/05/24/worlds- ... axi-fleet/. Not sure if it's the same area.
An electric taxi charging station in China’s hi-tech city of Shenzhen has reportedly become the largest EV charging station in the world, as a second phase of construction adding 172 fast chargers to total 637 fast chargers was completed this week.
Unclear if they really are "fast" chargers, say over 20 kW. In China, they use GB/T standards for AC and DC charging. From what I've seen, their DC ports look similar to CHAdeMO but isn't. Their AC inlet resembles Mennekes Type 2 but w/the wrong gender.

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