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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:24 pm

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Want to make it easier for your car to pass? Just make it a little bigger. This has been driving vehicle bloat. Selling something the size of a 1980s Civic or 1990s Metro doesn't win a manufacturer a lot of extra points because the small size ratchets up the requirements compared to a larger vehicle, even if the larger vehicle can't actually haul any more people or stuff. A proper approach would be to use vehicle
Or you could look at consumer pollution from a grams per mile perspective and reward manufacturers for lower energy consumption on the most efficient vehicles.

In many cities large cars/trucks drive huge hidden costs in the form of parking and congestion,

Taxing larger luxury vehicles more on registration (aka 4wd passenger bling trucks should pay the most, 2wd manual less and small micro cars the least) you could curb some consumer behavior by just raising taxes on large luxury stuff and drastically lowering it on very small vehicles, think Kei car laws.

Penalizing bad behavior and rewarding good is what shapes the vehicle landscape

Heck Wisconsin raising its license fees from $25 to $75 coupled with higher insurance rates made 2 million cars stop being registered

I have no doubt registration can be used to drive decisions (good or bad)
and drive costs to the larger vehicles that cause the damage.

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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:54 pm

As expected, via GCR:
Trump: EPA to remove California emissions authority
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... -authority


The lawsuit has been waiting in the wings, just needing the details to go forward. Scientific American:
California Promises to Fight EPA Plan on Car Standards
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... standards/
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:54 pm

GCC:
EPA, NHTSA issue One National Program Rule; EPA withdraws CA waiver for GHG and fuel economy
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... erule.html


Direct link to EPA release:
Final Rule: One National Program on Federal Preemption of State Fuel Economy Standards
https://www.epa.gov/regulations-emissio ... tion-state


GCC:
EPA Administrator broadly outlines Trump Administration thinking on fuel economy standards and California
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... eeler.html


Opinion piece in L.A. Times:
Column: Can Trump legally revoke California’s clean air waiver? Short answer: Probably not.
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/ ... nia-waiver
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:29 pm

ABG;
As it fights Trump on emissions, California devises ways to make him irrelevant
$7,000 rebate plan, other tax moves are designed to outmaneuver the EPA
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/09/19/tru ... vironment/


The bill, by Assemblyman Phil Ting, would give up to a $7k rebate for buying or leasing a ZEV, but only on cars from a manufacturer who agrees to abide by California's emissions standards. The legislature is now adjourned, but will discuss the bill when they return in January.
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:19 am

On cue, CA and 23 other States sue the Trump administration:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/clim ... e=Homepage

Best prospect for CA and friends might be for this to be held up in lower courts until next 4-year presidency term. If then not Trump in office, the EPA could reverse course and avoid Supreme Court. My guess is Trump would like this to go to Supreme Court sooner and hope the right leaning court is unsympathetic to States rights in this case.
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:08 pm

I wonder if the the CARB states couldn't just tack a significant registration surcharge on vehicles with a lower mileage rating, and avoid the EPAs nonsense?
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:09 pm

Here's the list of the states and local governments challenging the administration's plan:
Attorney General Becerra leads the attorneys general of Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, and the District of Columbia; as well as the cities of Los Angeles and New York.
https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/ ... %E2%80%99s


Three of the states have Republican Governors: Maryland, Massachusetts, Vermont.
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:19 pm

ABG:
EPA chief blasts California air, threatens to pull federal highway dollars
'Worst air quality' charge after denying California right to set tougher standard
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/09/24/epa ... way-funds/
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:59 pm

ABG:
Politics or pollution? Feinstein seeks probe into EPA actions against California
She questioned whether over three dozen states with similar issues are being targeted
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/09/28/epa ... feinstein/
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:32 pm

GCC:
NYC Comptroller Stringer and investors with $1.1T urge GM to get on board with the California compromise agreement on vehicle standards
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/1 ... 08-gm.html
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