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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:15 pm

The people don't get to decide they just force it on us.
I would be for it if it actually solved a problem.

Random thought and something that might help; authorize police to issue tickets for "rolling coal".
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:46 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:15 pm
The people don't get to decide they just force it on us.
You mean the non-people that voted for the government you don't like, as people not the same color as you aren't "the people".
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:30 am

How do you know Mr Oilpan4 isn't a person of color?
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:02 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:30 am
How do you know Mr Oilpan4 isn't a person of color?
You have a point. Hideki Tojo was Japanese.
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:59 pm

WetEV wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:46 pm
Oilpan4 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:15 pm
The people don't get to decide they just force it on us.
You mean the non-people that voted for the government you don't like, as people not the same color as you aren't "the people".
So you are trying to make this about race?
Wow you are one sick puppy.
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:07 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:59 pm
WetEV wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:46 pm
Oilpan4 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:15 pm
The people don't get to decide they just force it on us.
You mean the non-people that voted for the government you don't like, as people not the same color as you aren't "the people".
So you are trying to make this about race?
Wow you are one sick puppy.
Then was there an election? Didn't the people have the right to decide based on voting?
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:13 pm

^^^ Why yes, i believe there was, and they did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_New_Mexico_elections


It appears that Democrats swept all the statewide offices by 15% or more, increased their majority in the state House by 9, and Dems won all three Congressional seats. Perhaps Oilpan4 missed it?
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:05 pm

I didn't miss anything.
I voted for most of these idiots and regret it.
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:12 am

Explain why higher emission standards are a bad thing? It is not a mandate on which car you must drive.


I still think its funny that the EPA wants to revoke CA's ability to set a tougher emission standard for vehicles, then turned around and said pollution was too high.

Aside from the politics of who is in the legal "right", what's the problem with higher emission standards?

Personally I've thought they are not nearly high enough. Ever look at trucks in a dealer lot? Imagine my surprise years ago when I realized F250 and F350s did not have a EPA / MPG listed on their sticker. Simply because the EPA doesn't require them to. If they are on our roads, they should be following the same standards the rest of the vehicles do, eh?
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Re: California, allies ready for emission-law war with Trump EPA, CARB head says

Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:39 pm

CR:
New Consumer Reports analysis shows near-freeze of fuel economy rules would cost consumers $300 billion
https://advocacy.consumerreports.org/pr ... 0-billion/

Rolling back fuel economy requirements down to 1.5% annual increases would raise net cost per vehicle by $2,100 . . .
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