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No EV chargers at Federal Establishments.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:41 pm

If you work for Federal government and were looking into getting an EVSE installed at work, looks like you will not be successful. My request was just denied citing this document.

http://www.gao.gov/decisions/appro/320116.htm

Where do I go from here? Looks like nowhere !!
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Re: No EV chargers at Federal Establishments.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:45 pm

pksd1 wrote:If you work for Federal government and were looking into getting an EVSE installed at work, looks like you will not be successful. My request was just denied citing this document.
That seems to only talk about Capitol grounds ...
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Re: No EV chargers at Federal Establishments.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:47 pm

Send the document to Obama to ask if it fits in with his quest of getting electric vehicles on the road.
Of course there are appropriations for EV charging... apparently govenment offices are not part of the locations desinated.
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Re: No EV chargers at Federal Establishments.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:59 pm

Seriously, send this document and your experience (or better call) to the MI senators who are introducing EV bills. They may include needed funding for the federal establishments.
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Re: No EV chargers at Federal Establishments.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:03 pm

Has anyone heard about any charger plans for federal and state parks?

These are of course managed to accommodate public visits.

I would think it could be an easy sell for parks like Yosemite, that have air quality problems.

I sent the Email below last December, but received no reply. Been meaning to follow up on it.


"Hello,

I am a frequent visitor to Lassen Volcanic National Park. I am also planning to purchase an electric vehicle within the next few months.

I would like to use my EV on future Park visits. But, as you may be aware, the roadside charging infrastructure is currently limited, particularly in the North state.

Does LVNP have any plans to accommodate visitors driving EV's, such as the Nissan LEAF and Ford Focus, and other "plug in vehicles", such as the Chevy Volt and Toyota Prius, by providing facilities for drivers to charge their cars, during their visits to the Park? Due to the limited range of most currently available EV's, this will be a crucial question for all drivers along the I-5 corridor, who wish to visit Lassen Park.

In my own case, I live about 50 miles from the park entrance, and am planning to buy a Nissan LEAF this Spring. Just being able to plug into a standard 120 volt outlet for a few hours during my visit, could allow me to leave my "gas guzzler" at home-and make my trips to (and through) the Park, emission-free.

Please feel free to call me at xxxxxxxxxx or reply by email, if you feel I can help provide details of future visitors' needs.

Thank you,"
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Re: No EV chargers at Federal Establishments.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:17 pm

It doesn't surprise me since the US Capitol still uses coal fired furnaces, something the coal lobby and Mitch McConnell refuse to let go of.
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Re: No EV chargers at Federal Establishments.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:44 pm

evnow wrote:That seems to only talk about Capitol grounds ...
I am no lawyer, but although this was a specific request for AOC to install chargers for private vehicles on the Capitol grounds, the document has further reaching implications. If I am reading it correctly, it's basically saying that unless a federal government agency has specific appropriations to install chargers, it can not do so.

As governmental responses go, this is one of the more reasonable ones. You could read this as "the people have not said the government can use the people's money for this, so until they (the people) do we (the government) can not."

Honestly, it looks like the next place to go is your Congressman. If you're being told that your agency does not have the funds to do this, the document is saying that legislation needs to be made to allow it. Either that, our scour around and see if any other federal agencies have found a different way around this.

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Re: No EV chargers at Federal Establishments.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:50 pm

Is the link pointing to the right doc? A cursory glance leads me to think this document is about the restriction against using AOC appropriated funds for charging stations for personal/employee vehicles without statutory authority at the Capitol.

If you work at another federal site, like a VA site, different rules may apply. Maybe you should contact your local EV Project administrator to see if it is feasible to install Blink commercial Level 2 chargers.
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Re: No EV chargers at Federal Establishments.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:53 pm

edatoakrun wrote:Has anyone heard about any charger plans for federal and state parks?
I've had excellent discussions with local park supervisors and park rangers here in the Portland, Oregon area. The local county park supervisor welcomed me to bring my LEAF to local parks and to plug in. The state parks are managed by individual park rangers that can use discretion to allow/disallow "free" charging, however any park that has RV electrical hookups available will allow you to pay the overnight fee and plug in whatever you want.

One thing I might consider is trying to organize a program where the local Oregon Electric Vehicle Association applies for grants to install actual J1772 EVSEs in state parks for free use... Might be a good idea for local EAA chapters! (or at least ones that are 501(c)3 non-profits)
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Re: No EV chargers at Federal Establishments.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:00 pm

We were trying to get a couple of L2 charging station installed at the U.S. Coast Guard facility in San Pedro, CA and were turned down citing a similar source.

pksd1 wrote:If you work for Federal government and were looking into getting an EVSE installed at work, looks like you will not be successful. My request was just denied citing this document.

http://www.gao.gov/decisions/appro/320116.htm

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