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ABG: The future of transportation is ... not cars, not even autonomous ones Transportation officials nationwide plan to

Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:19 pm

The future of transportation is ... not cars, not even autonomous ones
Transportation officials nationwide plan to take back their cities from cars
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/13/fut ... utonomous/


Direct link to plan page (It will cost you $27.59 to buy):
Blueprint for Autonomous Urbanism: Second Edition
https://nacto.org/publication/bau2/


Along that line, from the S.F. Chronicle:
Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, approved unanimously
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/art ... 535887.php

Banning cars on San Francisco’s Market Street may have once been a radical idea. But on Tuesday, the Municipal Transportation Agency board voted unanimously to do it, with undiluted support from just about everyone: bicycle activists, politicians, city bureaucrats, parents, health care workers, business owners, ride-hail companies and Mayor London Breed. . . .

The plan that kicked off nearly a decade ago will start construction in January, with a ban on private cars east of 10th street on the city’s downtown spine. It will restrict commercial loading on the street to certain hours, extend the Muni-only lane from Third to Main Street, widen sidewalks, replace the ancient bricks with concrete pavers and add a sidewalk-level bike path with a protective curb. /quote]


Related S.F. Chronicle renderings and diagrams showing the changes to be made to the street design:
Here is what Market Street will look like car-less, according to newly approved plan
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/ ... o-18447246
Guy [I have lots of experience designing/selling off-grid AE systems, some using EVs but don't own one. Local trips are by foot, bike and/or rapid transit].

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Re: ABG: The future of transportation is ... not cars, not even autonomous ones Transportation officials nationwide plan

Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:59 am

I am glad that some people are reporting not just issues of EVs, and other personal transportation.

Your post shows a look at the future, where municipalities will be able to control the use of land and transportation, based on their idea of what social/ economic planning will be. This will be out of the hands of the citizens.

This is actually happening today, in secret, and hidden from the community. It is called "Sustainable City Planning". It is being done in the form of giving bills and laws nice, "friendly" names, and scheduling them when no one in the community will be at the town hall to vote on them. So, the municipalities will have city planning laws passed, without the population being aware of the precedent.... Until they decide to control the population.

All this nice sounding stuff for sustainable, eco-friendly, low carbon footprint, ... Etc... Stuff will slowly choke individual rights to the point of changing our country's environment and lifestyle.. It is dangerous and we need to be aware of it....

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Re: ABG: The future of transportation is ... not cars, not even autonomous ones Transportation officials nationwide plan

Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:58 pm

I've got news for you, municipalities have been controlling land use and transportation for a very long time. What do you think zoning is?
The origins of zoning districts can be traced back to antiquity. The ancient walled city was the predecessor for classifying and regulating land, based on use. Outside the city walls were the undesirable functions, which were usually based on noise and smell; that was also where the poorest people lived. The space between the walls is where unsanitary and dangerous activities occurred such as butchering, waste disposal, and brick-firing. Within the wall were civic and religious places, where the majority of people lived.[10]

Beyond the simple distinction between urban and non-urban land, most ancient cities further classified land type and use inside their walls. That was practiced in many regions of the world. For example, in China during the Zhou Dynasty (1046 – 256 BC), in India during the Vedic Era (1500 – 500 BC), and in the military camps that spread throughout the Roman Empire (31 BC – 476 AD). As the residential districts made up the majority of the city, that early form of districting was usually along ethnic and occupational divides; generally, class or status diminished outwards from the city center. One legal form for enforcing it was the caste system.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoning

Are there oil refineries/explosives plants/slaughterhouses/steel mills etc. in your residential neighborhood? Do you think you could build one on your property if it wasn't zoned for it?

As for transport, decisions were made decades ago by municipalities that cars took priority over all other forms of transport (and the needs of people in general), and that's now changing, for those municipalities that want it. All carried out with public input, I might add, at least in democratic countries.
Guy [I have lots of experience designing/selling off-grid AE systems, some using EVs but don't own one. Local trips are by foot, bike and/or rapid transit].

The 'best' is the enemy of 'good enough'. Copper shot, not Silver bullets.

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