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Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:26 am

As part of the economic stimulus they should be required to put an exhaust system and an oil filter on the leaf. Also when they are building the factory they should have people dig some extra holes and then fill them in.
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:29 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:As part of the economic stimulus they should be required to put an exhaust system and an oil filter on the leaf. Also when they are building the factory they should have people dig some extra holes and then fill them in.
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:50 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:As part of the economic stimulus they should be required to put an exhaust system and an oil filter on the leaf. Also when they are building the factory they should have people dig some extra holes and then fill them in.
Funny this was not part of the stimulus bill ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge
The Gravina Island Bridge, commonly referred to as the "Bridge to Nowhere", was a proposed bridge to replace the ferry that currently connects the town of Ketchikan, Alaska with Gravina Island, an island which contains the Ketchikan International Airport as well as 50 residents. The bridge was projected to cost $398 million. Members of the Alaskan congressional delegation, particularly Representative Don Young and Senator Ted Stevens, were the bridge's biggest advocates in Congress, and helped push for federal funding.[1] The project encountered fierce opposition outside of Alaska as a symbol of pork barrel spending and is labeled as one of the more prominent "bridges to nowhere".[2] As a result, Congress removed the federal earmark for the bridge in 2005.[3]
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:59 am

evnow wrote:
LTLFTcomposite wrote:As part of the economic stimulus they should be required to put an exhaust system and an oil filter on the leaf. Also when they are building the factory they should have people dig some extra holes and then fill them in.
Funny this was not part of the stimulus bill ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge
The Gravina Island Bridge, commonly referred to as the "Bridge to Nowhere", was a proposed bridge to replace the ferry that currently connects the town of Ketchikan, Alaska with Gravina Island, an island which contains the Ketchikan International Airport as well as 50 residents. The bridge was projected to cost $398 million. Members of the Alaskan congressional delegation, particularly Representative Don Young and Senator Ted Stevens, were the bridge's biggest advocates in Congress, and helped push for federal funding.[1] The project encountered fierce opposition outside of Alaska as a symbol of pork barrel spending and is labeled as one of the more prominent "bridges to nowhere".[2] As a result, Congress removed the federal earmark for the bridge in 2005.[3]

ahh the "bridge to nowhere" topic. has anyone ever considered that the fact that no one lives there is because they dont want to rely on a ferry in an area known for devastating weather conditions as their only means off an island?
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:00 am

I never understood why the called it the "bridge to nowhere". An airport with 16,000 flights a year served by a major carrier doesn't exactly sound like "nowhere" to me. That said, if the ferry service is adequate it's probably still just so much pork.
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:53 am

mitch672 wrote: while this may be true for manufacturing the Leaf, it is hardly the entire story.

How about all of the electricans who will get work installing EVSEs?
How about the mfrs of the actual EVSEs?
How about all of the additional solar installers who will get work on PV systems, once people want more "green" power?

the story is just too shortsighted... and not looking at the larger picture.
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:53 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:ahh the "bridge to nowhere" topic. has anyone ever considered that the fact that no one lives there is because they dont want to rely on a ferry in an area known for devastating weather conditions as their only means off an island?
So the 300 million was to populate an area known for devastating weather conditions ? Why not spend that on crumbling Alaskan way viaduct - for which we are being asked to pay extra taxes ?

BTW, when I was on my Alaskan trip during that time I talked to people over there about the bridge. A lot of them were unhappy about it ... the $300M was purely some grandstanding by the corrupt senator.
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LTLFTcomposite wrote:WAAA WAAAA WAAAA! But I get health care at the oil filter factory! WAAAA WAAAA WAAAA! And the union takes care of me WAAAA WAAA WAAAA!
You should educate yourself about some basic economics before kneejerk opposition to stimulus based on Milton Friedman / Austrian economics.

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Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:15 am

evnow wrote: You should educate yourself about some basic economics before kneejerk opposition to stimulus based on Milton Friedman / Austrian economics.

"Simple Keynesianism for Monetarists: A Primer" : http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/04/d ... rimer.html
I don't give a damn about economic theories. Show me where it's an enumerated power of government to force one group of people to support another.
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:33 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:
evnow wrote: You should educate yourself about some basic economics before kneejerk opposition to stimulus based on Milton Friedman / Austrian economics.

"Simple Keynesianism for Monetarists: A Primer" : http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/04/d ... rimer.html
I don't give a damn about economic theories. Show me where it's an enumerated power of government to force one group of people to support another.
If you don't give a damn about economic theories - you are living on the wrong planet :lol:

BTW, federal govt has absolute power to tax and to spend. You don't need an enumerated "power of government to force one group of people to support another.".

But as to original constitution - infact they had an enumerated "power of government to force one group of people to support another." a.k.a. slavery.
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